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Approach to an LOM/IAF with PT (not vectors to final)



 
 
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Old April 10th 04, 10:06 PM
Brad Z
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"McGregor" wrote in message
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Uh... What the hell is an SDF? I don't think I have one in my plane.


If you did, you'd probably be overgross.

I hope you don't have a VOR either, that giant bowling pin takes up a lot of
space in the baggage compartment.



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Old April 13th 04, 04:21 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Uh... What the hell is an SDF? I don't think I have one in my plane.


I'll bet you don't have a localizer in your plane either, or an NDB or a
VOR.

An SDF is a Simplified Directional Facility, it's similar to a localizer.
You'll find a description in the AIM.


Well, you're right. I've got a KX155, a KNS80 and an M3 GPS. Are SDFs more
prevelant out East? I've flown an LDA, but never an SDF.


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Old April 13th 04, 04:21 AM
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:11:37 GMT, "McGregor"
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Next time you can just ask to
skip the PT if you're already at 2600'.


Although controllers will often grant requests from pilots to shortcut
SIAP's, that does not necessarily make the granted shortcut legal.


yeah, but since we're both in on it, who's going to tell?


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Old April 13th 04, 04:56 AM
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Well, you're right. I've got a KX155, a KNS80 and an M3 GPS. Are SDFs more
prevelant out East? I've flown an LDA, but never an SDF.


I think he means that the SDF is the transmitter, not the receiver. Ditto the
VOR and the NDB.

Jose

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Old April 13th 04, 12:26 PM
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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:21:24 GMT, "McGregor"
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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:11:37 GMT, "McGregor"
wrote:

Next time you can just ask to
skip the PT if you're already at 2600'.


Although controllers will often grant requests from pilots to shortcut
SIAP's, that does not necessarily make the granted shortcut legal.


yeah, but since we're both in on it, who's going to tell?


The NTSB, when it turns out that the unsurveyed shortcut result in a CFIT
accident.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old April 13th 04, 09:54 PM
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"McGregor" wrote in message
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Are SDFs more prevelant out East?


Don't know. What do you consider "out East"? I'm in Green Bay, and just
off the top of my head I'm aware of SDF approaches in Sturgeon Bay, Fond du
Lac, and Wisconsin Rapids.


 




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