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Best single engine small personal plane with greatest range?
Since you'll be doing your travelling over fairly low terrain, no serious mountains, I'd say either a 150hp Lycoming O-320 equipped Beech Musketeer (60 gallons fuel) or a 150hp Piper Cherokee 140 (50 gallons fuel). These two planes are both comfortable, and are flying gas tanks. |
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As it seems with all of General Aviation, the best bang for the buck
is not in the certified aircraft. I can't say that I'm intimate the the make, but it seems like a long-eze could do the job nicely. -- Frank Stutzman Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" Hood River, OR |
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My M20C with a couple of speed mods gets 145 ktas at 8 gph. At 54
gal, that's 6.75 hours of flight time....1000+ no-wind nm. You'll find that the 15 knots start adding up when flying into a headwind....the comment about icing was a good one, need to ask yourself potential of having to delay for a day. Another question is how you will really like the 7 hour flights? That's a long time. Technically the PA28 (they are nice planes too) should be more resistant to ice with the fatter wing, but in practice they are both low powered singles, so it really doesn't make much difference. wrote in message .. . Bob: I think the only airplane even close to your price range that would provide the desired flying range is a normally-aspirated (not turbo) Arrow III or Arrow IV. (A newer Arrow would also work, but these are very much more expensive). These Arrows have 72 US gallon (usable) tanks and burn under 9 GPH at 65% power while providing a TAS of around 135 kts. (More like 141 kts at 75% power, but the extra fuel burn reduces range.) Thus you get a range of over 900 nm with VFR reserve, but you will be flying non-stop for about 7 hours getting there. Take a relief bottle. I co-own an Arrow IV, and I consider its outstanding range to be one of its best features. |
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Frank Stutzman wrote:
: As it seems with all of General Aviation, the best bang for the buck : is not in the certified aircraft. Sad, but true. With all the red tape and lawsuits, certified aircraft are a pain in the *ss and stuck with 50 year old technology. That said, it seems like they actually do hold up better and are more likely to just work when you get in to go somewhere. -Cory -- ************************************************** *********************** * The prime directive of Linux: * * - learn what you don't know, * * - teach what you do. * * (Just my 20 USm$) * ************************************************** *********************** |
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wrote in message ... Frank Stutzman wrote: : As it seems with all of General Aviation, the best bang for the buck : is not in the certified aircraft. Sad, but true. With all the red tape and lawsuits, certified aircraft are a pain in the *ss and stuck with 50 year old technology. That said, it seems like they actually do hold up better and are more likely to just work when you get in to go somewhere. Maybe the Diamond DA-40 TDi. Not on the budget though. But range is good. http://www.diamond-air.at/en/products/DA40/facts.htm 1100nm with the big tanks, I guess at reasonable speed. 2.4 USG/hour at 89kts, 3.2 @ 110kts, 4.9 @ 132kts. Jet-A so here in Europe it's about 1/3 the price of avgas. Seriously cheap flying if you discount the purchase cost. At 89 knots it has an endurance of 17 hours. 1513nm. Paul |
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Doug wrote: You really don't say how much range you need... As I read it, he needs about 1900 statute miles plus reserves and something more for wind. As I understand his post, one of his destinations is 850 miles away and he would prefer to avoid having to refuel there. George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip. |
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Maybe the Diamond DA-40 TDi. Not on the budget though. But range is good. http://www.diamond-air.at/en/products/DA40/facts.htm 1100nm with the big tanks, I guess at reasonable speed. 2.4 USG/hour at 89kts, 3.2 @ 110kts, 4.9 @ 132kts. Jet-A so here in Europe it's about 1/3 the price of avgas. Seriously cheap flying if you discount the purchase cost. At 89 knots it has an endurance of 17 hours. 1513nm. Paul I was actually thinking a qtr partnership in a Twin Star. Of course, an older twin would be much less capital at the expense of operating costs and more maintenance hassles. The thing is that after soloing, he will havea much better perspective. Also, he will be able to talk to instructors and pilots in the area. I haven't looked at a map, but isn't he flying over sparcely inhabited terrain with possible extreme cold temperatures? If he goes down, he could be there a while. One of those new 408 mhz ELT's would likely be a necessity. |
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Frank Stutzman wrote:
As it seems with all of General Aviation, the best bang for the buck is not in the certified aircraft. I can't say that I'm intimate the the make, but it seems like a long-eze could do the job nicely. I was thinking of the same thing actually. But it really depends on what he's doing. For 40k he can get a nice Long-Ez, it has 1000nm+ range. 52 gal at 6gph (o-235) at 150 knots is 8+ hours, or about 1000nm. If you want to go there and back you build a spare tank for the back seat and hold over 100gal. He's flying solo so there's a whole seat for storage, over top of the other soft storage. For that money I'm sure you could find a nice plane with an O-320 and boost the speed up, but you'll pay for in range. So all this is great, but what weather does he want to fly in? There's many people why fly them IFR, I don't because that's not the reason I fly. They don't do well in ice (ice gets into the hinges) and they don't like lightening. Is there gravel or grass involved? Home base isn't, but what about those other airports? But for the price? Hard to beat, -Andrew -- Andrew Stanley-Jones | "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." EE, LongEz N87KJ | -- Walt Disney |
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