Unruly Passengers

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Baloney. No one's life is their own, nor is anyone an island to
themselves.

This is typical Liberal BS. When I hear someone else tell me how they
are entitled to control my life I see red. I sure couldn't see myself taking
my own life .. but would indeed be willing to defend my freedom against
those wishing to control me. With maximum prejudice.

"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Baloney. No one's life is their own, nor is anyone an island to
themselves.

This is typical Liberal BS. When I hear someone else tell me how they
are entitled to control my life I see red.

When somebody commits suicide they are in fact attempting to control your
life. They want you to pay for their problems, raise their kids, pay their
medical bills, etc.

You know, it really amuses me the way some people in this group think I am
an extreme liberal and the others think I am a right wing lunatic. If it
helps you to ignore people by putting labels on them and filing them away,
be my guest. But that does not make the problem go away.

Are you really suggesting that some kid should be allowed to hang himself
because he got a D on his chemistry test -- that he has some kind of right
to do that without interference? If not, at what point do you think the
decision to kill yourself should be left to the individual?

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:49:09 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote in Message-Id:
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Suicide reduces freedom.

That must be the reason Arab children are schooled in it. :-(

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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That would only be true if killing yourself does not make everybody else
less free.


In a free society, it doesn't.



Suicide impinges on the freedom of everyone else, who must now
support the suicide's family, educate his children, pay for his medical
bills, and possibly even support him for the rest of his life if he
botches
the attempt and merely permanently disables himself.


In a free society, nobody is forced to support the suicide's family, educate
his children, pay for his medical bills, or support him for the rest of his
life if he botches the attempt and permanently disables himself.



Suicide reduces freedom.


Anyone that believes that does not understand what it means to be free.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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When somebody commits suicide they are in fact attempting to
control your life. They want you to pay for their problems, raise
their kids, pay their medical bills, etc.


Not in a free society. If you can be forced to pay for their problems,
raise their kids, pay their medical bills, etc., then you are not living in
a free society.

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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You know, it really amuses me the way some people in this group think I am
an extreme liberal [lunatic] and the others think I am a right wing
lunatic.

Some of us just think you're a lunatic, plain and simple.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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That would only be true if killing yourself does not make everybody else
less free.


In a free society, it doesn't.



Suicide impinges on the freedom of everyone else, who must now
support the suicide's family, educate his children, pay for his medical
bills, and possibly even support him for the rest of his life if he
botches
the attempt and merely permanently disables himself.


In a free society, nobody is forced to support the suicide's family,
educate
his children, pay for his medical bills, or support him for the rest of
his
life if he botches the attempt and permanently disables himself.


An interesting point, but if you do not support the suicide's family and
educate his children, then the suicide himself has decided to doom his
family to poverty or even death. I don't think he has the right to do that
in a free society.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
ink.net...

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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When somebody commits suicide they are in fact attempting to
control your life. They want you to pay for their problems, raise
their kids, pay their medical bills, etc.


Not in a free society. If you can be forced to pay for their problems,
raise their kids, pay their medical bills, etc., then you are not living
in
a free society.

And if a suicide imposes these problems on them, then they are not living in
a free society, either.

"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Baloney. No one's life is their own, nor is anyone an island to
themselves.

This is typical Liberal BS. When I hear someone else tell me how they
are entitled to control my life I see red. I sure couldn't see myself
taking
my own life .. but would indeed be willing to defend my freedom against
those wishing to control me. With maximum prejudice.



One other point -- it is the liberals who are generally most supportive of a
right to commit suicide. They seem to be interested in all kinds of
government sanctioned death, with the notable exception of capital
punishment. But they just fall all over themselves supporting the right to
commit suicide, euthanize old people, and kill unborn children. It has
reached the point that the Democratic Party resembles nothing so much as a
cult of death worshippers.

In a previous article, "C J Campbell" said:
punishment. But they just fall all over themselves supporting the right to
commit suicide, euthanize old people, and kill unborn children. It has
reached the point that the Democratic Party resembles nothing so much as a
cult of death worshippers.

Remember the good old days, when it was the Republicans who thought that
the government shouldn't make laws taking away your right to do something
unless it harmed others? That was back before they became a wholey owned
subsidiary of the radical Christian Right.


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