Heart trouble

Dave S wrote:
RomeoMike wrote:
. This isn't amateur night on a medical
newsgroup.

Cheers

Im not an amatuer. Shes correct.

I'm not an amateur either. I'm basically asking why someone who is not
qualified goes to such lengths to give a dissertation on something this
complicated that has an affect on another person's health. While it was
not necessarily incorrect in a general sense, it may not have been
totally correct when applied to CJ's case.

Viperdoc wrote:
Have to agree with Tina- as a matter of my daily practice, I put hundreds of
people on coumadin every year. It does require careful monitoring,
particularly when first started.

Chemical (via drugs) and electrical (cardioversion) are still used to
convert new onset a-fib. There is probably a bigger risk from the chronic
coumadin usage than the underlying a-fib.


I didn't say otherwise. In fact I said it required monitoring.

Dave S wrote:
RomeoMike wrote:



Whoa! Where's all this medical advice coming from? Also, it's quite
possible that tests other than an INR were ordered, requiring a
venipuncture as opposed to a finger stick. No point in making the guy
lose confidence in his facility without more reason.




Its highly unlikely that any other lab testing is being done on an
outpatient basis AT THIS POINT other than an INR. Thats my opinion based
on 18 years in the emergency and critical care fields of healthcare.

Well, you may be right, but your experience has little to say about
whether that's the case here. Your experience should have taught you not
to generalize to specific cases that you are not familiar with.



Up to this point, I've agreed with everything Tina has said. Its pretty
much on the mark. Afib, when properly anticoagulated, has minimal risk
of sudden incapacitation. This may not be as big of a hindrance as CJ is
worried about.

I would rather that a cardiologist familiar with the case at hand give
that assurance. But that's just me.

"RomeoMike" wrote

I'm not an amateur either. I'm basically asking why someone who is not
qualified goes to such lengths to give a dissertation on something this
complicated that has an affect on another person's health. While it was not
necessarily incorrect in a general sense, it may not have been totally correct
when applied to CJ's case.

Whoa, everyone!

You are all getting ahead of yourself.

He said that he had small veins, based on how hard it is to get a good stick.
He NEVER, repeat NEVER said he was getting a veinipuncture for checking his
levels at this current time.

Quoted from his previous post:

Hah! Not exactly comforting. I got extremely small veins, you know. It
takes 'em four or five tries to get a blood test. :-)

They gave me Warfarin, which is a coumadin derivative.

End Quote
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:

"RomeoMike" wrote

I'm not an amateur either. I'm basically asking why someone who is not
qualified goes to such lengths to give a dissertation on something
this complicated that has an affect on another person's health. While
it was not necessarily incorrect in a general sense, it may not have
been totally correct when applied to CJ's case.

Whoa, everyone!

You are all getting ahead of yourself.

He said that he had small veins, based on how hard it is to get a good
stick. He NEVER, repeat NEVER said he was getting a veinipuncture for
checking his levels at this current time.

Quoted from his previous post:

Hah! Not exactly comforting. I got extremely small veins, you know. It
takes 'em four or five tries to get a blood test. :-)

They gave me Warfarin, which is a coumadin derivative.

End Quote

You are correct, but my post that you responded to was referring to the
two dissertations of Tina in general. In another post I gave a
possible reason why a larger blood sample than a finger stick might
be needed, again in response to Tina, who appeared to me to be putting
down a lab that would do a venipuncture for an INR.

C J Campbell writes:

It appears that I am having a little bit of trouble with my heart. It
came on rather suddenly, as an EKG last December showed no problem at
all. But apparently I have developed something called an atrial
fibrillation. It doesn't look good for my flying status, but we shall
see.

That's where flight simulation comes in handy.

Allen writes:

When I was a kid on the farm Warfarin was in the bait we set out for the
rats (not that I am implying anything here).

It was used because it causes massive and fatal bleeding in the rats.

C J Campbell wrote:
fibrillation. It doesn't look good for my flying status,

P'shaw, plenty of other ways to get high, Sport Pilot, Ultralight,
Lawn Chair...

Big John wrote:
CJ

Warfarin is the name brand and more expensive. Coumadin is the generic
and much cheaper if you are paying out of pocket. Also most HMO's only
pay for the generic. Both seem to work OK.
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:11:39 -0700, C J Campbell
wrote:
They gave me Warfarin, which is a coumadin derivative.


Uh... I think you that backwards. Coumadin is the name brand for generic
Warfarin. It is NOT a derivitive... it is exactly the same thing. Some people
have noted the active ingedient is rat poison. G



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Big John wrote:
I am on coumadin (blood thinner) and just touch something and bleed.
Have scars from this on both arms. If I'm doing any work I wear rubber
gloves to prevent fingers and hands from bleeding.


Has your doc considered adjusting your dosage? Are you getting regular lab
draws to see what your INR is?



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com