About German Mystery Objects

"Tex Houston" wrote in message
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"Bernardz" wrote in message
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U-boats carried technicians and scientists to a base there, Number
211, via an undersea trench that stretched the entire way through what
was know formerly as Queen Maud Land. Base 211 was carved into a cave
complex similar to Nordhausen and supplied by transport subs,
components of which even the Type XXVI were taken. SS Antartic troops
maintained the base.



Never heard of a U-boat base being given a number. No Type XXVI was ever
built in the war. Work only started on it, late in the war so how is it
suppose to be available in 1939? Nor is SS Antartic listed in a
complete list of every SS-Divisionen formed during WWII.


I read a novel with this very plot.

Mick Farren's recent Underworld involves the "Nazi saucermen at the South
Pole" schtick. The US government recruits Farren's vampire character Victor
Renquist to deal with the saucermen.

tim gueguen 101867

"Erich Adler" wrote in message
om...
I see that many people here is the United States cannot comprehend the
developments brought on by the Allied bombing campaign against Germany
during the Second World War.

I see that many people, like you, are kooks who will believe anything that's
put to them if it sounds "kewl."

But over in Germany many such books exist on the subject you Americans
find impossible to discuss civily, German disc planes.

Discussion of supposed Germany flying saucers has turned up in a number of
North American released books over the years, ranging from a '70s release
written by Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel under a penname to Nick Cook's The
Hunt For Zero Point.


The SS, however, had been involved in the black arts since the Nazis
took power and had both Hitler's and Himmler's backing to develope
occult craft from the Thule and Vril Gesellschafts.

If only the Nazis had wasted more effort on such nonsense, assuming of
course they actually

These black
societies centering around occult teachings and two psychic mediums
sometime in the 1930's built a flying disc that utilized technology
derived from occult science. It flew badly and crashed but worked
continued with the help of a Dr. Schumann who invented levitators
centered around a liquid mercury sphere and various spinning internal
disc plates that somehow caused a rotating magnetic field effect.

And your proof that any of the crap you're spewing is true is?

tim gueguen 101867

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:55:58 -0600, t_mark wrote:

Point being, as a person of no particular faith living in the U.S. I see the
'religion' here for what it is, and it's a far, far sight from the beliefs
of many foreigners who hear that most Americans believe in some sort of god
and summarily decide there's some sort of theocracy over here.

While the USA clearly isn't a theocracy, religion is clearly
influential enough that states from time to time take evolution off
their school curricula.

--
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people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia
(Email: zen19725 at zen dot co dot uk)

Bernardz wrote in message news:MPG.1a9b8d33930402ad9898f6@news...
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says...
Some say the technology came from an alien UFO that crashed near
Freiberg in 1936 and was taken to Himmler's castle at Wewelsberg,
reverse engineered. Nevertheless, Thule and Vril continued development
of these RFZ (RundFlugZeug) with models 1-6 up to 1939. By the start
of the war Vril had their own designs of which the often-quoted V-7 is
mentioned. This is a mislabel as it is not part of the

The designation V-1, V-2 etc was not used till late in the war.

The designation V was for "Versuchs" the German word for experimental.
Most german protduction aircraft had up to 30-100 V series aircraft
V1, V2..V7 and that was a trend that seems to have been in place
before the war etc on which various engine, weapons, modifications
were carried out. Occaisionaly some enteres sevice eg when the Arado
234 V5 and V7 were hurridly taken out of testing to photo recon the
D-day landings.

The use of the term V1 and V2 for the Fi 103 cruise missile and A4
Ballistic missile had the advantage of throing of allied intelligence.
The first the allies know about the Fi 103 was photo recon of the ski
ramps lauch sites german security was soi succesfull. Part of the
reaon for the botched first days of lauch was that all launches
involved a very complicated sequence that had to be done completely by
memory. No notes were allowed!




Vergeltungswaffen, just Vril-7. Meanwhile Thule came up with a more
advanced Triebwerk that utilized Coler's free energy machine, a Van
deGraf generator, a mercury sphere, and spherical levitators. This
engine was installed in the large Haunebu craft that flew the Atlantic
and made trips to an area Hitler knew would be safe from Allied
bombing, New Schwabenland in Antartica.

U-boats carried technicians and scientists to a base there, Number
211, via an undersea trench that stretched the entire way through what
was know formerly as Queen Maud Land. Base 211 was carved into a cave
complex similar to Nordhausen and supplied by transport subs,
components of which even the Type XXVI were taken. SS Antartic troops
maintained the base.

It was probably a designation that did exist as an intended
experimental type. apart from the electo u-boats type XXI and XXIII
there was the hydrogen peroxide walter boats and others using
compressed oxygen and diesel based on a Dai





Never heard of a U-boat base being given a number. No Type XXVI was ever
built in the war. Work only started on it, late in the war so how is it
suppose to be available in 1939? Nor is SS Antartic listed in a
complete list of every SS-Divisionen formed during WWII.


I like this story. It was better than the crap they taught me in
Sunday School. Give it 1000 years of retelling it will end up like
the Ark of the Covenent story and we'll have another new ethnocentric
religion.

Well i believe in the German UFO technology in WW2 and jet propelled
objects disc shapes.

If the German scientists and co were so much more advanced then the
Allies with jets and new inventions from 1930s-1945, who knows what else
was created that after the war the Allies dare not want the public to
see..

Even today WW1 secret dealing with US army records are still highly
guarded.. so i can suspect we only saw a tip of iceberg from ww2.

Remember the german as we know were very creative with jets in 40s in
the designs.. so they had big plans by the 50s if it had occurred.
Virtually all US designs followed from them.

Flying wings or discs were nothing new... why do americans think they
are the only ones to be right? Thats is always how americans think,
someone esle designed it but they claim it.

Every country has secrets and protects them like a baby.. germany could
of had a UFO crashes and the world would of not even known bar the high
order of power... Its like saying Groom Lake is controlled by the CIA,
which it is... SS could of easily controlled any UFO programs in
germany.

Americans need to think outside their box.. and credit germans for alot
of their current technology and machines...

Even if UFos were not common knowledge in 1940s, they are nowdays.

Eunometic wrote:

Bernardz wrote in message news:MPG.1a9b8d33930402ad9898f6@news...
In article ,
says...
Some say the technology came from an alien UFO that crashed near
Freiberg in 1936 and was taken to Himmler's castle at Wewelsberg,
reverse engineered. Nevertheless, Thule and Vril continued development
of these RFZ (RundFlugZeug) with models 1-6 up to 1939. By the start
of the war Vril had their own designs of which the often-quoted V-7 is
mentioned. This is a mislabel as it is not part of the

The designation V-1, V-2 etc was not used till late in the war.

The designation V was for "Versuchs" the German word for experimental.
Most german protduction aircraft had up to 30-100 V series aircraft
V1, V2..V7 and that was a trend that seems to have been in place
before the war etc on which various engine, weapons, modifications
were carried out. Occaisionaly some enteres sevice eg when the Arado
234 V5 and V7 were hurridly taken out of testing to photo recon the
D-day landings.

The use of the term V1 and V2 for the Fi 103 cruise missile and A4
Ballistic missile had the advantage of throing of allied intelligence.
The first the allies know about the Fi 103 was photo recon of the ski
ramps lauch sites german security was soi succesfull. Part of the
reaon for the botched first days of lauch was that all launches
involved a very complicated sequence that had to be done completely by
memory. No notes were allowed!



Vergeltungswaffen, just Vril-7. Meanwhile Thule came up with a more
advanced Triebwerk that utilized Coler's free energy machine, a Van
deGraf generator, a mercury sphere, and spherical levitators. This
engine was installed in the large Haunebu craft that flew the Atlantic
and made trips to an area Hitler knew would be safe from Allied
bombing, New Schwabenland in Antartica.

U-boats carried technicians and scientists to a base there, Number
211, via an undersea trench that stretched the entire way through what
was know formerly as Queen Maud Land. Base 211 was carved into a cave
complex similar to Nordhausen and supplied by transport subs,
components of which even the Type XXVI were taken. SS Antartic troops
maintained the base.

It was probably a designation that did exist as an intended
experimental type. apart from the electo u-boats type XXI and XXIII
there was the hydrogen peroxide walter boats and others using
compressed oxygen and diesel based on a Dai




Never heard of a U-boat base being given a number. No Type XXVI was ever
built in the war. Work only started on it, late in the war so how is it
suppose to be available in 1939? Nor is SS Antartic listed in a
complete list of every SS-Divisionen formed during WWII.

I like this story. It was better than the crap they taught me in
Sunday School. Give it 1000 years of retelling it will end up like
the Ark of the Covenent story and we'll have another new ethnocentric
religion.

From: "tim gueguen"


"Erich Adler" wrote in message
. com...
I see that many people here is the United States cannot comprehend the
developments brought on by the Allied bombing campaign against Germany
during the Second World War.

I see that many people, like you, are kooks who will believe anything that's
put to them if it sounds "kewl."

But over in Germany many such books exist on the subject you Americans
find impossible to discuss civily, German disc planes.

Discussion of supposed Germany flying saucers has turned up in a number of
North American released books over the years, ranging from a '70s release
written by Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel under a penname to Nick Cook's The
Hunt For Zero Point.


The SS, however, had been involved in the black arts since the Nazis
took power and had both Hitler's and Himmler's backing to develope
occult craft from the Thule and Vril Gesellschafts.

If only the Nazis had wasted more effort on such nonsense, assuming of
course they actually

These black
societies centering around occult teachings and two psychic mediums
sometime in the 1930's built a flying disc that utilized technology
derived from occult science. It flew badly and crashed but worked
continued with the help of a Dr. Schumann who invented levitators
centered around a liquid mercury sphere and various spinning internal
disc plates that somehow caused a rotating magnetic field effect.

And your proof that any of the crap you're spewing is true is?

tim gueguen 101867

It's all in a classified file at Wright-Pat, Area 51, a vault X (fill in as
needed) number of stories below the Pentagon, in a secret underground Antarctic
base the Nazis built or accidentally burned as trash. Your version may vary
based soley on your paranoia or sense of humour. Want to buy a tinfoil hat?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Tex Houston wrote:

"Bernardz" wrote in message
news:MPG.1a9b8d33930402ad9898f6@news...


In article ,
says...


U-boats carried technicians and scientists to a base there, Number
211, via an undersea trench that stretched the entire way through what
was know formerly as Queen Maud Land. Base 211 was carved into a cave
complex similar to Nordhausen and supplied by transport subs,
components of which even the Type XXVI were taken. SS Antartic troops
maintained the base.




Never heard of a U-boat base being given a number. No Type XXVI was ever
built in the war. Work only started on it, late in the war so how is it
suppose to be available in 1939? Nor is SS Antartic listed in a
complete list of every SS-Divisionen formed during WWII.




I read a novel with this very plot. I no longer remember the name of that
novel as I read two or three a week. I do recognize the difference between
novels and non-fiction.

Tex




Maybe it was "Genesis", by W. A. Harbinson? I'm kind of embarrassed to
admit knowing that, so here's my excuse -- back in the early 80s, when I
was working in a bookstore, Dell (the publisher) gave out a bunch of
free review copies. I finally got around to reading mine a couple years
later, when I was home with the flu or somesuch and needed the
distraction. It's not without some entertainment value, in a
conspiro-whacko sort of way.

Erich Adler wrote:

I see that many people here is the United States cannot comprehend the
developments brought on by the Allied bombing campaign against Germany
during the Second World War.

But over in Germany many such books exist on the subject you Americans
find impossible to discuss civily, German disc planes.




Well, I apologize for being so ignorant on the subject, but that's what
I get for spending all my time over at www.daniken.com I can, however,
converse at length about Mayan laser pistols.

Bernardz wrote in message news:MPG.1a9b8d33930402ad9898f6@news...
In article ,
says...
Some say the technology came from an alien UFO that crashed near
Freiberg in 1936 and was taken to Himmler's castle at Wewelsberg,
reverse engineered. Nevertheless, Thule and Vril continued development
of these RFZ (RundFlugZeug) with models 1-6 up to 1939. By the start
of the war Vril had their own designs of which the often-quoted V-7 is
mentioned. This is a mislabel as it is not part of the

The designation V-1, V-2 etc was not used till late in the war.

The Vril-1 was flying by 1939, not the Vril-7. Postwar authors often
mentioned a secret V-7 weapon in their books suggesting a continuation
of the Vergeltungswaffen after the V-1 buzzbomb, V-2 BM, V-3 gun, and
final V-4 missile.


Vergeltungswaffen, just Vril-7. Meanwhile Thule came up with a more
advanced Triebwerk that utilized Coler's free energy machine, a Van
deGraf generator, a mercury sphere, and spherical levitators. This
engine was installed in the large Haunebu craft that flew the Atlantic
and made trips to an area Hitler knew would be safe from Allied
bombing, New Schwabenland in Antartica.

U-boats carried technicians and scientists to a base there, Number
211, via an undersea trench that stretched the entire way through what
was know formerly as Queen Maud Land. Base 211 was carved into a cave
complex similar to Nordhausen and supplied by transport subs,
components of which even the Type XXVI were taken. SS Antartic troops
maintained the base.



Never heard of a U-boat base being given a number. No Type XXVI was ever
built in the war. Work only started on it, late in the war so how is it
suppose to be available in 1939? Nor is SS Antartic listed in a
complete list of every SS-Divisionen formed during WWII.

Base 211 is often referenced as a code-name for the entire Antarctic
program and disc connection. And why WOULD a secret SS battalion be
listed among the combat divisions? The SS E-IV technical branch is
barely known along with the Black Sun SS religious Order, the DHvSS,
and the SS archeological unit that went to South America and Tibet...
among other places searching for sacred relics.
You really need to skip basic SS history and read up on the occult
aspects of the Third Reich before opening your mouth. You probably
aren't even aware that the Nazi Party (NSDAP) originated from the
occult Thule/Vril Gesellschafts from way back to 1917. Before that
Thule came from the German Order (aka Order of Teutons) of 1912 and
was also known as the "Luminous Lodge"- directly connected to the
Illuminati.
That's what makes all of this hard to deal with; the entire Third
Reich cannot be seperated from the occult, its symbolism, its mission,
and its plans for ultimate control over the planet.
Most people don't even recognize the swastika (Hakenkreuz) for what it
symbolizes- the black sun wheel that Thule and Vril worshipped. A dark
violet sun with dark powers. Vril is also the shortened version of
Vri-il "Like God". At the heart of all this is the worship of pure
evil.
Anyway, Base 211 is interesting to speculate on but no one could reach
it on land. Only a submarine could get there if the location was
known. I wonder if the US or USSR ever tried to find it in the trench?
The Germans probably mined the hell out of the area.

Rob

Even when new amazing jets arrived they were scarce
on fuel and remained stationary on the ground. Up to 300 Messerschmitt
262's were grounded for that reason alone.

I see this is going to be a fantasy piece.... ok.

Get out the popcorn.

Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR

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