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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:28:00 -0400, "Kevin Brooks"
wrote: Uhhmm...that comment from Bob was not related to Olds, but to the other pilot mentioned in the discussion. It certainly sounded like it was related to Olds. I found it hard to believe because he is a consummate gentleman, although also probably the most aggressive air warrior you may ever have the privilege to meet. Coincidentally (and I didn't know it this AM), I went to the local Daedalians meeting for lunch at USAFA. The guest speakers today were a tag-team match of Bob Titus (3 MiGs in SEA and lots of test pilot experience including the zero-length launch of the F-100) and Robin. Both charmed the gathering of military aviatiors for quite a while. There was some young punk named Ritchie in the front row who claimed to have some F-4 time as well! A pretty impressive lunch bunch. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" "Phantom Flights, Bangkok Nights" Both from Smithsonian Books ***www.thunderchief.org |
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:28:00 -0400, "Kevin Brooks" wrote: Uhhmm...that comment from Bob was not related to Olds, but to the other pilot mentioned in the discussion. It certainly sounded like it was related to Olds. I found it hard to believe because he is a consummate gentleman, although also probably the most aggressive air warrior you may ever have the privilege to meet. You may be right; I took it as referring to "Diz", but on second reading it could go either way. Brooks Coincidentally (and I didn't know it this AM), I went to the local Daedalians meeting for lunch at USAFA. The guest speakers today were a tag-team match of Bob Titus (3 MiGs in SEA and lots of test pilot experience including the zero-length launch of the F-100) and Robin. Both charmed the gathering of military aviatiors for quite a while. There was some young punk named Ritchie in the front row who claimed to have some F-4 time as well! A pretty impressive lunch bunch. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" "Phantom Flights, Bangkok Nights" Both from Smithsonian Books ***www.thunderchief.org |
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote
On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:28:00 -0400, "Kevin Brooks" wrote: Uhhmm...that comment from Bob was not related to Olds, but to the other pilot mentioned in the discussion. It certainly sounded like it was related to Olds. I found it hard to believe because he is a consummate gentleman, although also probably the most aggressive air warrior you may ever have the privilege to meet. Yes, it was Olds, and yes, my wife is easily offended, and I said that to make her feel she was still on top, and my sword was valiantly in place to defend her honor, knowing full well that to explain his humor to her would be a waste of time and energy. Sorry, I should have said that in the first message, as it does make it sound like General Olds was something that he is clearly not. But it would have been as long winded as this reply. Coincidentally (and I didn't know it this AM), I went to the local Daedalians meeting for lunch at USAFA. The guest speakers today were a tag-team match of Bob Titus (3 MiGs in SEA and lots of test pilot experience including the zero-length launch of the F-100) and Robin. Both charmed the gathering of military aviatiors for quite a while. There was some young punk named Ritchie in the front row who claimed to have some F-4 time as well! A pretty impressive lunch bunch. Are you shocked at how old they look now? I can't believe how fast time flies. The kids in my neighborhood call me Grandpa Coe, and I still think I'm 20 years old in spirit, hee |
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 17:35:25 -0500, "Bob Coe" wrote:
Are you shocked at how old they look now? I can't believe how fast time flies. The kids in my neighborhood call me Grandpa Coe, and I still think I'm 20 years old in spirit, hee Yep. Every year when I go to the River Rats reunion, I keep running into this collection of fat, balding, gray-haired, glasses-wearing old farts wearing the name tags of a bunch of guys who are much younger. Then someone sends me a picture of myself after the doings and I wonder who the old, fat, etc. etc. guy is wearing my nametag. It's an honor to know them all. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" "Phantom Flights, Bangkok Nights" Both from Smithsonian Books ***www.thunderchief.org |
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Thanks, George. These days, stating your political beliefs is basically
inviting a load of hurt, but I refuse to believe our country would be better off without the debate. v/r Gordon |
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I mentioned Diz - the other name that pops up right off the bat is Robin Olds, who used to tell his backseater to "shut up and hold on". Do you know Robin? He chased me out of his ready room in the mid-70s when he was running the Triple Nickle - since then I have met him several times but I seriously doubt that he remembers every fan. I grew up thinking (knowing) he was the best damn fighter pilot I would ever meet. Until I met Swede Vejtasa and became friends with him, I never doubted that Col. Olds was the top of the food chain. The comments he was making we in the context of when **** hit the fan and how overloaded a pilot could get in the middle of NVN airspace. With the RWR and ECM going off, folks yelling on the radio, etc., he talked about how distracting it could be to have a backseater. Other people at the reunion mentioned his "strap in and hold on" crew brief, although that is decades after the events and could be partially puffed up to make a good story. I've heard that happens. I'm afraid that I can't picture the Robin Olds I know saying that unless it was a necessary warning when something unusual was about to occur. Robin is the consummate professional in fighter aviation and knew (and knows) that the F-4 is a two-person airplane and both parties have a critical role to perform. He was already into F-15s when I met him the first time. It would not have surprised me to have actual fangs drop down out of the corners of his mouth. Although I've heard many times about single-seat drivers telling the WSO to go cold mike, I've never known a single one who did so. It's urban legend. I would hope so - its not much of a team if it was just the driver. I met him. When he left my wife asked "who was that asshole?" and I said "he's a fighter pilot, need I say more?" Your wife may have been going through an emotional crisis, or maybe she hasn't met many warriors. sorry, Ed - I don't know where that came from. I don't think I wrote the quote there that you replied to as it doesn't sound familiar at all. Lesser men will often say the same thing after an encounter with Robin. No way! He makes a larger than life impression on the folks I have seen him with. Yeager maybe, but not Col. Olds (err.. General?). v/r Gordon ====(A+C==== USN SAR Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine. |
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****ing A Bubba! Okay so you get the picture. Damn Gordon, I never realized you were so wise. Shhhhh, I already have Cheney peeking in the mail slot! |
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After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, Krztalizer
confessed the following: Shhhhh, I already have Cheney peeking in the mail slot! BTW have you seen these poll results at the BBC site? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3640754.stm Makes one wonder how supporters of gwb and his dick dismiss their unpopularity around the world. The obvious answer is they don't care. This is the first time in my life I've donated money to a political campaign. http://www.idiots4bush.com/bumper_stickers1 Robey |
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Coincidentally (and I didn't know it this AM), I went to the local Daedalians meeting for lunch at USAFA. _Dog_. I would have killed to be a fly on the wall. I never made it into the Order of the Daedalians - our crew was First Loser one year. Sure felt great to be considered in the running! The guest speakers today were a tag-team match of Bob Titus (3 MiGs in SEA and lots of test pilot experience including the zero-length launch of the F-100) and Robin. That would have been worth a good admission. Both charmed the gathering of military aviatiors for quite a while. There was some young punk named Ritchie in the front row who claimed to have some F-4 time as well! He was really nice to my son - sent an inspiring letter and copies of his best speeches. The photos were a pleasant bonus - the kid loved them. A pretty impressive lunch bunch. And you are in amongst them, Ed. Have a good night. v/r Gordon ====(A+C==== USN SAR Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine. |
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