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Leaving aside the grammar squabble, why the hang-up about the best L/D Mr T? Modern competition gliders are designed for good climbing and good inter-thermal cruising performance. If the bit of the polar in between turns out to give a high best L/D figure all well and good, but when should such a glider be flown at best L/D? Hardly ever - and if anyone is hoping that best L/D is maybe going to get them home when a higher MC setting final glide won't then they need to have a good think about the implications and possible consequences of that.
Best motor-glider? As an ex-owner of a JS1C 18/21 I was very keen to get a JS2 but it has taken too long in development, I didn't really want the 21m tips without which it probably wouldn't be very salable, (Oxford comma) and the JS3 and pending JS5 will outgun it in the 18m and Open classes respectively. I am pretty happy with the Ventus 3M. John Galloway On Friday, 20 November 2020 at 14:09:22 UTC, Eric Greenwell wrote: Paul T wrote on 11/19/2020 11:25 PM: At 12:13 19 November 2020, Paul T wrote: For all you non-believers and skeptics that did not believe the JS1 had been measured by the Idafleig at 63:1 please see the latest posting on th Jonkers website regarding the JS2. Your really not as smart as you thin you are. Apologies, should have said FB page(although the article should also be on their website)- the article by Segelfleigen magazine on the JS2 acknowledges that Idafleig measured the JS1C at 63:1 as you where previously informed off, but had to have a massive debate decrying the fact. Hopefully some of you have the intellect to read German. I, like most of the people on this forum, do have the intellect to read German, but not the training or the motivation. Why not translate crucial paragraph(s) for us? -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8lBpVfIGX0
On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 10:48:13 AM UTC-7, wrote: Didn't want to hijack the current FES tread so I thought I'd start a new one. This topic came up over dinner a couple of weeks ago. When you add all the following into a pot and stir, whats the "Best" Say for Western Great Basin flying. I think it may be the Carat, but I don't know much about it. CX thinks its the DG 800 series, but all I know is since he bought that thing its been a endless battle to keep it running. But it does climb well. FACTORS Reliability Maintenance required to keep it running XC flyability, performance and control feel Storability Rigging Initial cost High density climb performance Range Cockpit layout and seating Parts availability Insurance cost Landing gear complexity Overall quality Nick T |
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On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 11:24:30 AM UTC-4, jfitch wrote:
So, you've owned the Wankel and had problematic maintenance? Or you are guessing? The Wankel is an ICE, it has a fuel system, ignition system, cooling system, and belt drive reduction system as they all do. Maintenance tasks are identical in most respects with any glider ICE. Only if you have to tear the engine down completely will you see the differences (and here the Wankel is somewhat simpler, having 2 moving parts). On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-7, John Iacobucci wrote: One can argue the Wankle is less vibration on the whole, but maintenance for problems would be problematic. Pluses and minuses. In response to jfitch: not guessing. Have two friends had to send engine to Europe for work. After all the bother of sending it, being in the factory more than a season, they were told to buy a new one. Very expensive. Like I said, my only problem was solved by a local mechanic in two hours. Back to flying same day. Not guessing, just relaying my experience |
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Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer?
https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/ Ramy On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:22:24 PM UTC-8, John Iacobucci wrote: On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 11:24:30 AM UTC-4, jfitch wrote: So, you've owned the Wankel and had problematic maintenance? Or you are guessing? The Wankel is an ICE, it has a fuel system, ignition system, cooling system, and belt drive reduction system as they all do. Maintenance tasks are identical in most respects with any glider ICE. Only if you have to tear the engine down completely will you see the differences (and here the Wankel is somewhat simpler, having 2 moving parts). On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-7, John Iacobucci wrote: One can argue the Wankle is less vibration on the whole, but maintenance for problems would be problematic. Pluses and minuses. In response to jfitch: not guessing. Have two friends had to send engine to Europe for work. After all the bother of sending it, being in the factory more than a season, they were told to buy a new one. Very expensive. Like I said, my only problem was solved by a local mechanic in two hours. Back to flying same day. Not guessing, just relaying my experience |
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I would think the vaunted Jeta would be the obvious answer. I remember
you saying it looked great (on paper), but you were going to wait until they showed up on the used market. Wait no longer, you can pick one up on W&W today. A used glider with just zero hours on it! New glider smell with a used glider price! https://wingsandwheels.com/classifie...gp15-jeta.html On 12/13/20 5:39 PM, Ramy wrote: Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer? https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/ Ramy On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:22:24 PM UTC-8, John Iacobucci wrote: On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 11:24:30 AM UTC-4, jfitch wrote: So, you've owned the Wankel and had problematic maintenance? Or you are guessing? The Wankel is an ICE, it has a fuel system, ignition system, cooling system, and belt drive reduction system as they all do. Maintenance tasks are identical in most respects with any glider ICE. Only if you have to tear the engine down completely will you see the differences (and here the Wankel is somewhat simpler, having 2 moving parts). On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-7, John Iacobucci wrote: One can argue the Wankle is less vibration on the whole, but maintenance for problems would be problematic. Pluses and minuses. In response to jfitch: not guessing. Have two friends had to send engine to Europe for work. After all the bother of sending it, being in the factory more than a season, they were told to buy a new one. Very expensive. Like I said, my only problem was solved by a local mechanic in two hours. Back to flying same day. Not guessing, just relaying my experience |
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Interesting that the GP Jeta advertised on W&W is the first one imported into the country, is going back to the factory for "revisions and upgrades" and is being offered for sale by the dealer who imported it. And it does not appear to have been flown. Wonder if he has ordered another? Or not?
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On 12/14/20 7:07 AM, Mark Mocho wrote:
Interesting that the GP Jeta advertised on W&W is the first one imported into the country, is going back to the factory for "revisions and upgrades" and is being offered for sale by the dealer who imported it. And it does not appear to have been flown. Wonder if he has ordered another? Or not? My guess is that it's a clever sales advertisement. But, if you've got a LOT of money to spend, check out Reiner Stemme's new Elfin... -- Dan 5J |
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On Monday, 14 December 2020 at 02:39:25 UTC+2, Ramy wrote:
Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer? https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/ Ramy Yes. |
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Dňa utorok 15. decembra 2020 oÂ*8:49:57 UTC+1 použÃ*vateľ krasw napÃ*sal:
On Monday, 14 December 2020 at 02:39:25 UTC+2, Ramy wrote: Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer? https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/ Ramy Yes. Hi, I ve seen quite a lot used ASH31s for sale on segelflug pages. Any known reason why are people dropping them? they seem to be marketed to HNWI pilots, who doesnt change the ship often due "WGC competitiveness" reasons EP |
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On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:34:34 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Dňa utorok 15. decembra 2020 o 8:49:57 UTC+1 použÃ*vateľ krasw napÃ*sal: On Monday, 14 December 2020 at 02:39:25 UTC+2, Ramy wrote: Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer? https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/ Ramy Yes. Hi, I ve seen quite a lot used ASH31s for sale on segelflug pages. Any known reason why are people dropping them? they seem to be marketed to HNWI pilots, who doesnt change the ship often due "WGC competitiveness" reasons EP Don't know what an "HNWI" pilot is, but there are more than 250 31s out there, so it is not surprising to see some up for sale. There weren't any for sale in the US when I was looking 3 years ago, so I had to order a new one. Tom |
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