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Old June 18th 04, 05:30 PM
Eric Greenwell
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Default Did your ELT work?

Ed Byars said he has had two successful 121.5 style ELT activations; I
know a pilot in our club that had a successful activation (the police
were alerted and arrived in short while). So the scorecard is:

3 Successful activations
? Unsuccessful activations

I don't know of any other cases. This is a very unscientific poll, but
perhaps others can report their experiences in actual crashes, which
might give us a better idea of their value.

Personally, I fly with an 121.5 ELT, for several reasons:

1) Because I fly a motorglider, I often fly when (or where) other glider
pilots aren't flying, so there is no one to give my position to.

2) I often fly a 100 miles or more away from home, so I can't contact my
base station.

3) I frequently fly over mountains and other terrain where locating the
glider would be difficult.

4) My wife said it makes her feel better, knowing I might be found
sooner after an accident.

5) It might (in some areas) make search and rescue people more likely to
search for me.

The cost was about $300, because I bought a small one that could be
mounted more easily. The larger ones are quite a bit cheaper, and
probably no harder to mount, now that I've seen some other installations.
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Old June 18th 04, 06:17 PM
Bob Greenblatt
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Fortunately, have never been in a crash. However, a few years ago during an
off field landing, the glider wheel fell into a ground hog hole while I was
still rolling at about 20 mph. The glider stopped instantly with damage to
the gear mechanism. The ELT activated.

I would count this as a successful activation

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Old June 19th 04, 01:28 AM
Herbert Kilian
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Eric Greenwell wrote in message ...
Ed Byars said he has had two successful 121.5 style ELT activations; I
know a pilot in our club that had a successful activation (the police
were alerted and arrived in short while). So the scorecard is:

3 Successful activations
? Unsuccessful activations

I don't know of any other cases. This is a very unscientific poll, but
perhaps others can report their experiences in actual crashes, which
might give us a better idea of their value.


Eric,

My ELT in an ASW-24 activated and transmitted well after a gear-up
landing in Uvalde. The glider was taken to someone's house for repair
and fuselage was turned over to work on the belly. I had forgotten to
de-arm the unit. At around 1AM the Civil Air Patrol people got the
person doing the repairs out of bed. They told him very politely that
he may not be aware of it but there appears to be a crashed airplane
in his backyard.
There was no fine, no fuss about the incident. The ELT had
transmitted through the bottom of the glider (ELT installed in one of
the tubes where the thermos bottles used to reside)with the stock
antenna stowed horizontally in another tube. Time from activation to
rescue people showing up: around 4-6 hours, not bad considering there
was no missing pilot report.

Herbert, J7
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Old June 19th 04, 09:22 PM
Shaber CJ
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Ed Byars said he has had two successful 121.5 style ELT activations;

??????
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Old June 20th 04, 02:33 AM
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A few years ago a friend of mine decided to turn his glider into a lawn dart.
His ELT activated as designed. Fortunately he walked away from the crash
(cartwheeling through the forest canopy dissipates energy quite nicely).
cp

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Old June 20th 04, 01:28 PM
Ed Byars
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"ChuckPilot" wrote in message
...
A few years ago a friend of mine decided to turn his glider into a lawn

dart.
His ELT activated as designed. Fortunately he walked away from the crash
(cartwheeling through the forest canopy dissipates energy quite nicely).
cp

cp: some time hit do, sometime hit don't. I know! (I'm referring to energy
dissipation, not ELT activation).
Ed Byars


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Old June 21st 04, 09:12 PM
Eric Greenwell
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Shaber CJ wrote:

Ed Byars said he has had two successful 121.5 style ELT activations;


??????


"121.5 style ELT" = older type of ELT (121.5 mhz only), allegedly with
less reliable activation than the newer 406 mhz units. So far, no one
has reported a "failed to activate" situation.


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Old June 21st 04, 09:33 PM
Ed Byars
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Specifically, I have for several years, used the $185 Ameri-King ELT
available at any glider or aircraft supply house. I like it because it is
compact, easy to mount, and uses only 6 of the inexpensive D cell flashlight
batteries available at Walmart or any hardware store. You can take the unit
out, plug in the furnished portable antenna and a microphone and transmit
while you are awaiting rescue or walking back to civilization.
This unit was in use for my two successful activations.
Ed Byars

"Eric Greenwell" wrote in message
...
Shaber CJ wrote:

Ed Byars said he has had two successful 121.5 style ELT activations;


??????


"121.5 style ELT" = older type of ELT (121.5 mhz only), allegedly with
less reliable activation than the newer 406 mhz units. So far, no one
has reported a "failed to activate" situation.


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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
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Old June 21st 04, 09:40 PM
Chris OCallaghan
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Here's a brief, interesting read...

http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/cont...y_locator.html
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Old June 23rd 04, 05:07 AM
Larry Goddard
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Add another one to the "yes" column.

Larry Goddard
"01" USA


Eric Greenwell wrote:

Ed Byars said he has had two successful 121.5 style ELT activations; I
know a pilot in our club that had a successful activation (the police
were alerted and arrived in short while). So the scorecard is:

3 Successful activations
? Unsuccessful activations

I don't know of any other cases. This is a very unscientific poll, but
perhaps others can report their experiences in actual crashes, which
might give us a better idea of their value.

Personally, I fly with an 121.5 ELT, for several reasons:

1) Because I fly a motorglider, I often fly when (or where) other glider
pilots aren't flying, so there is no one to give my position to.

2) I often fly a 100 miles or more away from home, so I can't contact my
base station.

3) I frequently fly over mountains and other terrain where locating the
glider would be difficult.

4) My wife said it makes her feel better, knowing I might be found
sooner after an accident.

5) It might (in some areas) make search and rescue people more likely to
search for me.

The cost was about $300, because I bought a small one that could be
mounted more easily. The larger ones are quite a bit cheaper, and
probably no harder to mount, now that I've seen some other installations.
--
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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA


 




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