Why was the USAF.....................

On 09 Jan 2004 02:48:34 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

From: Mary Shafer
Date: 1/8/2004 7:13 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

On 08 Jan 2004 22:33:39 GMT, (B2431) wrote:


Marron, I will let you in on a little secret your father committed a crime
by
taking you on the flightline in a launch truck. He and his buddies
committed a
crime by giving you beer as a minor.

Everyone seems to think this, but it's not true. Parents can give
their minor children alcohol legally. Maybe not everywhere in the US,
but in a fairly large part of it.

True, but only at home.

Nope. In most states, it's in "a non-public place". In some, it's
anywhere. In a few, it's only in a home, whose home not specified.
Granted, there are a couple of states where it's a relative's home,
but even that is more places than just "at home", implying the kid's
and parent's home.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

You want to reread that first paragraph which reads "The defensive tail
armament was changed. The quartet of 0.50-inch machine
guns carried by earlier versions was replaced by a single General Electric
M61 20-mm six-barreled rotary cannon. "

Ahh, I see. I read it to infer that the replacement was made post production.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Is a tail gun necessary on a B52?

No, at least in my opinion. If you ever get a bandit close enough to your jet
to use a 20mm cannon, many things have gone wrong from the OCA push to the
AWACS coverage.

Has one ever been used as a defensive
measure in recent times?

This is debateable. According to several books and official Air Force history,
yes it was used successfully twice during Linebacker II. According to a few
books, including the latest; "11 Days of Christmas", the two supposed
shootdowns were probably F-4s diving away from BUFF friendly fire. Our own Ed
Rasimus who shared those same skys that December doubts they were real kills as
well.

Also, refresh my memory, it was a B52 that Slim Pickens was dropped from
in the movie ( as per BUFDRVR's signature )??

Sure was....yaaahoooo...

And as more of a side note, was BUFDRVR's H
model built before or after the movie came out?

Before. The movie was made in early 1963 and released over Christmas 1963.
There's a scene in the movie where our hero, Slim Pickins, is reading the
contents of the survival kit and says; "shoot a fella could have a good time in
Vegas with stuff". If you watch closely, the word "Vegas" is dubbed in and Slim
actually says "Dallas". This was changed prior to the movies release due to the
shooting of JFK in Dallas in November '63.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Yes, Slim Pickens was the pilot of a B-52 in "Dr. Strangelove"
(or "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"),
I can't tell you off hand what model it was supposed to be.

Its a "Chameleon" BUFF. In one scene its a G, the next an H and the next a
"Tall Tale".


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

All I remember is it was a tall tail.

In a few scenes, yes it was, but its a G and H in some as well.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

He thought General Ripper...snip

That's General Jack D. Ripper to those of us who love him




BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

BUFDRVR wrote:

Yes, Slim Pickens was the pilot of a B-52 in "Dr. Strangelove"
(or "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"),
I can't tell you off hand what model it was supposed to be.



Its a "Chameleon" BUFF. In one scene its a G, the next an H and the next a
"Tall Tale".


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Would that be the "I" model?? Or do we skip the "I" and go to "J" so no
one thinks it's a "T"?? ( Huh? )

BUFDRVR wrote:

Is a tail gun necessary on a B52?



No, at least in my opinion. If you ever get a bandit close enough to your jet
to use a 20mm cannon, many things have gone wrong from the OCA push to the
AWACS coverage.


That was my thought. It seemed to me in recent times ( Gulf I and II,
Afghanistan ), by the time the B52, B2 and B1 were running multiple
missions, the skies were mostly already ours. Chances of anything small
getting close was minimal.




Has one ever been used as a defensive
measure in recent times?



This is debateable. According to several books and official Air Force history,
yes it was used successfully twice during Linebacker II. According to a few
books, including the latest; "11 Days of Christmas", the two supposed
shootdowns were probably F-4s diving away from BUFF friendly fire. Our own Ed
Rasimus who shared those same skys that December doubts they were real kills as
well.



Also, refresh my memory, it was a B52 that Slim Pickens was dropped from
in the movie ( as per BUFDRVR's signature )??



Sure was....yaaahoooo...



And as more of a side note, was BUFDRVR's H
model built before or after the movie came out?



Before. The movie was made in early 1963 and released over Christmas 1963.
There's a scene in the movie where our hero, Slim Pickins, is reading the
contents of the survival kit and says; "shoot a fella could have a good time in
Vegas with stuff". If you watch closely, the word "Vegas" is dubbed in and Slim
actually says "Dallas". This was changed prior to the movies release due to the
shooting of JFK in Dallas in November '63.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"


See, now I'm going to have to rent that this weekend! Hopefully it can
be found!

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
...
Yes, Slim Pickens was the pilot of a B-52 in "Dr. Strangelove"
(or "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"),
I can't tell you off hand what model it was supposed to be.

Its a "Chameleon" BUFF. In one scene its a G, the next an H and the next
a
"Tall Tale".

Sounds like something from Dale Brown.

Glenn D.

In article ,
Mark and Kim Smith wrote:

BUFDRVR wrote:

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if
it harelips everyone on Bear Creek"

See, now I'm going to have to rent that this weekend! Hopefully it can
be found!

You could just buy a copy. They're less than $20 on DVD.

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