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Old December 13th 16, 01:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve L[_2_]
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Is there a small streamlined self contained ( 9 volt or AA battery powered) strobe out there on the market that is about the size of a wingtip running light?
Thanks, Steve
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Old December 13th 16, 02:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Michael Opitz
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At 01:52 13 December 2016, Steve L wrote:
Is there a small streamlined self contained ( 9 volt or AA battery

powered)
strobe out there on the market that is about the size of a wingtip

running
light?
Thanks, Steve

Steve,

Check out:

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...veoeseries.php

At $679/pair, they are not cheap. Don't know about internal batteries,
though they are used by LSA's and UL's....

RO

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Old December 13th 16, 03:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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These pull 1.65A (200MS) per strobe, and are not self-contained. There are others on the site, but none are self-contained.

The point that is the real sticker is that all the strobe (even bright LED) are going to exhaust a 9V or pair of AA in a really short time, certainly less than a typical flight, on the order of a couple hours I would guess.

A guy in our club tried a set that ran off ship mains, but they weren't really visible in the daylight.
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Old December 13th 16, 07:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default self contained streamlined strobe?

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:52:30 PM UTC+13, Steve L wrote:
Is there a small streamlined self contained ( 9 volt or AA battery powered) strobe out there on the market that is about the size of a wingtip running light?
Thanks, Steve


I've toyed with the idea of mounting a straight_ahead and straight_ behind strobes borrowed from the bicycle market (on Experimental Airworthiness glider). Their performance is incredible for the cost. I've seen bikes flashing strobes coming at me in sunlight conditions from considerable distances so I think these would have value especially when flying under the shadow of a cloud street.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/articl...cycling-32289/

Aveo makes some more expensive LED lights specifically for aircraft. They're not self contained. I thought the Red Barron Mini might look good on my turtledeck where wiring is pretty easy.
http://www.aveoengineering.com/redbaron-mini/

They market a wingtip light specifically for gliders http://www.aveoengineering.com/gliderburst/
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Old December 13th 16, 12:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default self contained streamlined strobe?

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:40:21 AM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:
On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 2:52:30 PM UTC+13, Steve L wrote:
Is there a small streamlined self contained ( 9 volt or AA battery powered) strobe out there on the market that is about the size of a wingtip running light?
Thanks, Steve


I've toyed with the idea of mounting a straight_ahead and straight_ behind strobes borrowed from the bicycle market (on Experimental Airworthiness glider). Their performance is incredible for the cost. I've seen bikes flashing strobes coming at me in sunlight conditions from considerable distances so I think these would have value especially when flying under the shadow of a cloud street.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/articl...cycling-32289/

Aveo makes some more expensive LED lights specifically for aircraft. They're not self contained. I thought the Red Barron Mini might look good on my turtledeck where wiring is pretty easy.
http://www.aveoengineering.com/redbaron-mini/

They market a wingtip light specifically for gliders http://www.aveoengineering.com/gliderburst/


I think that the highest threat is head-on; I've been thinking of putting these on my glider: http://www.how2soar.de/index.php/led...d-rechenknecht ; Link's in German but I think the idea is clear (or use google translate). You can hook it to one of these: http://www.lxnav.com/accessories/flarm-acl.html that runs the strobe when there is a FLARM alert. The tail strobe on AS gliders is a great idea and should be more widely adopted, in my opinion.
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Old December 13th 16, 01:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:04:30 AM UTC-5, Dan Daly wrote:
runs the strobe when there is a FLARM alert.

Does this actually strike anyone as a good idea?

-Evan




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Old December 13th 16, 03:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Le mardi 13 décembre 2016 14:57:00 UTC+1, Tango Eight a écritÂ*:
On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:04:30 AM UTC-5, Dan Daly wrote:
runs the strobe when there is a FLARM alert.

Does this actually strike anyone as a good idea?

-Evan


Well, it would be a good idea in the Alps, where as good as every sailplane is Flarm-equipped. It would drastically reduce the battery drain caused by, and thus increase the acceptance of, the strobes. The risk of midair between sailplanes is much higher here than between a sailplane and another type of airplane. And the weakness of Flarm is that you still need to SEE the threat after being warned. The strobe is useful there. Of course, a permanent strobe is better still.

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Old December 13th 16, 03:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Scott Williams
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On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 7:52:30 PM UTC-6, Steve L wrote:
Is there a small streamlined self contained ( 9 volt or AA battery powered) strobe out there on the market that is about the size of a wingtip running light?
Thanks, Steve


A few years ago Tim Mara was Kind enough to include an A.C.R. hand held personal C-Strobe in an order I made. This one uses two AA batteries which would be 3 volts.
If one had the desire and some small skill in fabrication, a "small AA battery powered strobe about the size of a wing tip light" albeit not streamlined could exist. no claim made by me about brightness, duration, or electro magnetic noise.

Scott
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Old December 13th 16, 03:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I believe the AS strobe retro-fittable item. Would take some work though. I have this set up with the LxNav controller on my glider and it is very bright.

http://www.lxnav.com/accessories/flarm-acl.html that runs the strobe when there is a FLARM alert. The tail strobe on AS gliders is a great idea and should be more widely adopted, in my opinion.

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Old December 13th 16, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathan St. Cloud
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It is a GREAT idea, not sure why it is not standard! A strobe faired into the leading edge of the vertical fin (no aerodynamic loses) with a controller, that lets you set to off, on, or strobe with Flarm alert. Why would tht not be a good idea. Check out the Schleicher fin strobe, it is great safety idea and in my view should be a standard item.

What would be the downside?


On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 5:57:00 AM UTC-8, Tango Eight wrote:
On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:04:30 AM UTC-5, Dan Daly wrote:
runs the strobe when there is a FLARM alert.

Does this actually strike anyone as a good idea?

-Evan


 




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