Parachute fails to save SR-22

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Andrew Gideon wrote:

That was the story behind some airline crash in Florida, if memory
serves.

An L-1011. The pilots were descending for approach into Miami. An idiot
light
came on, they started trying to trouble-shoot that, accidentally knocked
the
control column (which turned the autopilot off), and set down in the
glades.

The airline salvaged some of the plane and reused the pieces during
maintenance
of other aircraft in the fleet. The ghost of the flight engineer was said
to
haunt all of the planes that received these parts. I remember that it was
quite
a scandal in Atlanta at the time - a number of people quit the airline.
Eventually all the parts were removed and destroyed.

Years later, the made a movie of the incident. Starred Ernest Borgnine, as
I
recall.

"The Ghost of Flight 401" (1978), a "made for TV" movie.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0077610/maindetails

James Randi debunked the Hollyweird/stories that came out of it shortly
after and it was hilarious.

Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:

I wonder what his altitude was when he ran into trouble. Perhaps he was
too low, or maybe he thought he could make an emergency landing safely.
Guess we will have to wait for more details.

Or he was working on the problem and neglected to actually fly the
airplane.
That was the story behind some airline crash in Florida, if memory serves.

But, as you say, we don't know enough to do more than guess wildly.

I suppose I should go with that theme and say it was a problem getting the
plane into the alien spaceship's docking bay.

Ah, then following Usenet protocol I should flame you, questioning your
parentage and your personal habits as well as your politics, and say that
it was obviously an Illuminati plot.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, C J Campbell wrote:


"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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C J Campbell wrote:

I wonder what his altitude was when he ran into trouble. Perhaps he was
too low, or maybe he thought he could make an emergency landing safely.
Guess we will have to wait for more details.

Or he was working on the problem and neglected to actually fly the
airplane.
That was the story behind some airline crash in Florida, if memory serves.

But, as you say, we don't know enough to do more than guess wildly.

I suppose I should go with that theme and say it was a problem getting the
plane into the alien spaceship's docking bay.

Ah, then following Usenet protocol I should flame you, questioning your
parentage and your personal habits as well as your politics, and say that
it was obviously an Illuminati plot.

Don't forget that one of you will have to mention Hitler & the Nazis
and/or take a swipe at G.W. Bush/the evil liberals [delete as appropriate]
to make it a real Usenet argument!

Just trying to help,

Brian
www.warbard.ca/avgas/

"Brian Burger" wrote in message
ia.tc.ca...

Don't forget that one of you will have to mention Hitler & the Nazis
and/or take a swipe at G.W. Bush/the evil liberals [delete as appropriate]
to make it a real Usenet argument!

Just trying to help,

Well, you should have cross-posted the thread to at least three other groups
when you jumped in to help.

Guess we
will have to wait for more details.

That would be a novel experience for aviation discussion groups

Capt.Doug,

regarding your subject line: The parachute is not meant to do that. The
pilot is.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Capt.Doug,

regarding your subject line: The parachute is not meant to do that.
The
pilot is.


That's the way it used to be. Now the pilot has a resignation handle.
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
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That's the way it used to be. Now the pilot has a resignation handle.
--

That's one way to look at it. Another is that this is simply one more
back-up system to deal with certain failure modes that are otherwise
unrecoverable. The real mistake is thinking that this will be a *huge*
improvement to safety. The lay public thinks that if only people had
parachutes (including on airliners), nobody would get killed in airplane
accidents. To them, an airplane with a parachute should be 100% safe. In
fact the types of accidents where this can help are relatively rare, as seen
by the ratio of accidents to saves. I maintain that airbags, such as those
being installed in new Cessnas, will do a lot more to reduce misery by
helping in a far wider range of situations. But the smart thing obviously is
to do both. If we're talking pilot incapacitation, structural failure,
engine loss at night or over hostile terrain, the 'chute is a great option
that will save some lives. It certainly won't kill anybody who didn't start
digging their own hole.

-cwk.

Gene Seibel wrote:
That's the way it used to be. Now the pilot has a resignation handle.

That's pretty good! I wear one strapped to my rear-end when I fly...
and there's gotta be a 'flush handle' joke in there, someplace. :-)
-Dave Russell
8KCAB / N2S-3

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
regarding your subject line: The parachute is not meant to do that. The
pilot is.

Don't worry, The UK is slowly coming around to the American way of blaming
anyone and everything so long as personal accountability can be suppressed.

D.