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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
Why does everyone get on this guys case just because he doesn't fly? He brings up some good typical student questions and some even us old timers have to rethink. Because he's never flown, doesnt WANT to fly, purports to know more than those who do, and gives advice based on that.. all the while asking such questions as above. He's been asked not to do so. He's been asked to change his tact. His antisocial tendencies overrule though...and he's a pest.. |
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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
On Aug 25, 5:16*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
If you are following a road or river or other feature on the ground while flying VFR, and that feature runs north/south but often veers off to one side or the other, are you expected to change your altitude each time you move from a heading of 0-179 to 180-359 or vice versa? The headings for VFR cruising altitudes are country dependent, and your heading does not matter, just the ground track (due to the effect of drift). Cheers |
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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Lou writes: Why would you follow a road? Pilotage. I try to practice different forms of navigation, and pilotage is a useful type of navigation for VFR flights. This situation usually resolves itself. If you are flying "pilotage" and at an altitude that the VFR cruising altitudes applies, you will probably be picking out a ground reference many miles away and cruise for some time before changing coarse. If you insist on keeping you plane on the same coarse as the river or road then then you are expected to follow the rule. If you are below 3000' agl, then the VFR cruising rule doesn't apply. -- Regards, Bob F. |
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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
"Dave S" wrote in message ... Why does everyone get on this guys case just because he doesn't fly? He brings up some good typical student questions and some even us old timers have to rethink. Because he's never flown, doesnt WANT to fly, purports to know more than those who do, and gives advice based on that.. all the while asking such questions as above. He's been asked not to do so. He's been asked to change his tact. His antisocial tendencies overrule though...and he's a pest.. Maybe I'm like the blind man touching the elephant here since I don't have a lot of experience with him. So maybe I'll play along for a while and see how it goes. -- Regards, Bob F. |
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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
"More_Flaps" wrote in message ... On Aug 25, 5:16 am, Mxsmanic wrote: If you are following a road or river or other feature on the ground while flying VFR, and that feature runs north/south but often veers off to one side or the other, are you expected to change your altitude each time you move from a heading of 0-179 to 180-359 or vice versa? The headings for VFR cruising altitudes are country dependent, and your heading does not matter, just the ground track (due to the effect of drift). Cheers Actually 91.159 says "Course" (one of these word I keep misspelling, and at 70 I don't think I'll ever get it right). And "ground track" seems to be exactly the same for this discussion. -- Regards, Bob F. |
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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
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Lou wrote: Why would you follow a road? If you want to follow a road, drive a car. Why would you follow a river, rivers end. Why not fly the plane? An aircraft without DME, LORAN, and GPS may wish to stay out of the Boston Class Bravo airspace. An excellent way to do that is follow 495 around Boston. For those that want the torture, I know it can be done with just one VOR. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
What you are doing is not pilotage.
Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations. Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed. Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage. just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage. BT "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Lou writes: Why would you follow a road? Pilotage. I try to practice different forms of navigation, and pilotage is a useful type of navigation for VFR flights. |
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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage.
But fun! |
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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
"BT" wrote in message ... What you are doing is not pilotage. Fly a straight line based on compass and wind correction computations. Time between visual points, towns, bridges, etc to compute ground speed. Correct the heading slightly based on "observations" from pilotage. just following a meandering river or road is not pilotage. BT "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Lou writes: Why would you follow a road? Pilotage. I try to practice different forms of navigation, and pilotage is a useful type of navigation for VFR flights. What is it that makes you think he not practicing pilotage? What would you call what he describes what he is doing? (reference please). We'll give you a little time to read up on Pilotage, DR and Radio navigation and then you can restate what you said. -- Regards, Bob F. |
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Maintaining VFR altitudes when following N/S roads/rivers
Bob F. wrote:
If you are below 3000' agl, then the VFR cruising rule doesn't apply. Is that a US only rule or universal? They refer to lots of lower altitudes as flight levels over there in Europe where mx is.. |
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