Stripped Long EZ airframe - buy it cheap or it goes to the landfill

Richard Riley wrote:
There's a stripped, formerly flying Long EZ for sale at KFUL. If he
doesn't get a buyer by the end of the month he's going to cut it up
and dump it.

It's a good looking plane, workmanship ranges from good to very good.
Pictures and more information are here.

http://70.183.89.192/ad/index.php?a=2&b=467

He'd be happy with $10k. He might take less.

If I were ready to cut it up and dump it, I'd be
asking a lot less than $10K--or the $14K in the
ad. In fact it would be better to _give_ it away
to someone than to have to do the work to cut it
up and carry it out, then clean up the hangar from
the fiberglass sawdust.

When he gets serious about getting rid of the
thing, the price is going to go down quite a bit,
or the saw is going to come out.

Don W.

"Don W" wrote in message
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Richard Riley wrote:
There's a stripped, formerly flying Long EZ for sale at KFUL. If he
doesn't get a buyer by the end of the month he's going to cut it up
and dump it.

It's a good looking plane, workmanship ranges from good to very good.
Pictures and more information are here.

http://70.183.89.192/ad/index.php?a=2&b=467

He'd be happy with $10k. He might take less.
If I were ready to cut it up and dump it, I'd be asking a lot less than
$10K--or the $14K in the ad.

Cutting it up would insulate him from future lawsuits; it's been done before
for that very reason.

John Kunkel wrote:
"Don W" wrote in message
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Richard Riley wrote:
There's a stripped, formerly flying Long EZ for sale at KFUL. If he
doesn't get a buyer by the end of the month he's going to cut it up
and dump it.

It's a good looking plane, workmanship ranges from good to very good.
Pictures and more information are here.

http://70.183.89.192/ad/index.php?a=2&b=467

He'd be happy with $10k. He might take less.
If I were ready to cut it up and dump it, I'd be asking a lot less than
$10K--or the $14K in the ad.

Cutting it up would insulate him from future lawsuits; it's been done before
for that very reason.

Selling it as airplane parts would also do the same. If there are 10k
worth of other parts betides the fuselage then maybe he'll get his
price. Otherwise I'm sure he will chop it up before he gets that kind
of money for it.

Tony

John Kunkel wrote:
"Don W" wrote in message
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Cutting it up would insulate him from future lawsuits; it's been done before
for that very reason.

Usually it's because the owner has a very small penis. ANYONE can sue
you for ANYTHING at ANY TIME. Nothing you can do about it. Homebuilders
do not get sued for "product liability" generally because they have no
product liability insurance. Unless they are Bill Gates they are a poor
target.


The real fix for "the product liability crisis" which the GA
manufacturers brought 99.99763% on themselves) is-outlaw product
liability insurance.

Whats the difference if he gets sued for liability when he gives the
project away or sells it, it's still in someone elses hands.
Lou


Bret Ludwig wrote:
John Kunkel wrote:
"Don W" wrote in message
snip

Cutting it up would insulate him from future lawsuits; it's been done before
for that very reason.

Usually it's because the owner has a very small penis. ANYONE can sue
you for ANYTHING at ANY TIME. Nothing you can do about it. Homebuilders
do not get sued for "product liability" generally because they have no
product liability insurance. Unless they are Bill Gates they are a poor
target.


The real fix for "the product liability crisis" which the GA
manufacturers brought 99.99763% on themselves) is-outlaw product
liability insurance.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:12:48 GMT, Anthony W wrote:

Cutting it up would insulate him from future lawsuits; it's been done before
for that very reason.

Selling it as airplane parts would also do the same.

That ought to be of great relief to those companies that make vacuum pumps,
alternators, avionics, propellers, engines, and other airplane parts.

Ron Wanttaja

There's also the price at which it's just an insult.

I figure it's worth about $15k, if he had time to leave it on the
market. Feel free to offer him $20, but I don't think he'll take it.
$8k, he might.

He didn't build it. He bought it from someone
else and hasn't worked on it if I read his add
correctly. Since he paid $14K for it, you could
argue that there is a market for it at that price.

However, unless you are financially independent it
is never an insult for someone to offer you their
hard earned money for something you are about to
discard.

And for the posters who mentioned the potential
for liability, see the first sentence.

And anyway, I personally would not be interested
even if it were given to me free, with free
delivery, because my wife would kill me for taking
on another project right now

"Don W" wrote in message
t...

There's also the price at which it's just an insult. I figure it's worth
about $15k, if he had time to leave it on the
market. Feel free to offer him $20, but I don't think he'll take it.
$8k, he might.

He didn't build it. He bought it from someone else and hasn't worked on
it if I read his add correctly. Since he paid $14K for it, you could
argue that there is a market for it at that price.

However, unless you are financially independent it is never an insult for
someone to offer you their hard earned money for something you are about
to discard.

And for the posters who mentioned the potential for liability, see the
first sentence.

And anyway, I personally would not be interested even if it were given to
me free, with free delivery, because my wife would kill me for taking on
another project right now

I couldn't agree more with this message. Anyone can sue you for anything.
The best you can do is prepare yourself with enough documentation to
discourage the other side from trying through a preponderance of evidence
that shows the likelihood a judge won't side with them. Some people do that
with documentation, others do it by showing there are no assets the lawyer
can go for, and hence no money to get paid, and I'm sure there are tons of
other ways. People who can't handle the slightest possibility of a lawsuit
should prepare to destroy aircraft and lose their entire investment. It
appears those are in the minority though.



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Juan Jimenez wrote:
"Don W" wrote in message
t...

There's also the price at which it's just an insult. I figure it's worth
about $15k, if he had time to leave it on the
market. Feel free to offer him $20, but I don't think he'll take it.
$8k, he might.

He didn't build it. He bought it from someone else and hasn't worked on
it if I read his add correctly. Since he paid $14K for it, you could
argue that there is a market for it at that price.

However, unless you are financially independent it is never an insult for
someone to offer you their hard earned money for something you are about
to discard.

And for the posters who mentioned the potential for liability, see the
first sentence.

And anyway, I personally would not be interested even if it were given to
me free, with free delivery, because my wife would kill me for taking on
another project right now

I couldn't agree more with this message. Anyone can sue you for anything.

To be accurate, almost anybody can file a suit for almost anything
against anybody.

Some number of filings, not an insignificant number, are rejected by
clerks even before service--typically because no actual tort is alleged
by the would-be plaintiff.

There are a small number of people who, because of a previous record
of abuse of process, are not even allowed to file without first
obtaining
specific permission from the court.

That is not to say that there is no lawsuit abuse. But the remedies
do exist in the law, they simply are underutilized.

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Juan Jimenez wrote:

To be accurate, almost anybody can file a suit for almost anything
against anybody.

Some number of filings, not an insignificant number, are rejected by
clerks even before service--typically because no actual tort is alleged
by the would-be plaintiff.

True, but most times the plaintiff turns around and files a revised lawsuit
that takes care of that. Clerks do that all the time, making sure that the
document has all the required components. That's part of their job.

There are a small number of people who, because of a previous record
of abuse of process, are not even allowed to file without first
obtaining specific permission from the court.

That's true too, but it's a very, very small number.

That is not to say that there is no lawsuit abuse. But the remedies
do exist in the law, they simply are underutilized.

So true, but first you have to have a judge who isn't prejudiced towards his
own, and actually believes that the system should not be abused.

Juan



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