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Subject: Senior Pilot and Command pilot ratings
From: Ed Rasimus Date: 9/8/03 7:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: (ArtKramr) wrote: Anyone knows that pretty hats make for tighter bomb patterns. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS Wasn't it Col. Cathcart that established that? Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (ret) ***"When Thunder Rolled: *** An F-105 Pilot Over N. Vietnam" *** from Smithsonian Books ISBN: 1588341038 ROFL. Yeah. That was the guy. (grin) Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 15:03:03 GMT, "Phineas Pinkham"
wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message "Gord Beaman"wrote: "Phineas Pinkham" wrote: The children have been allowed to stay up too late again. Jealousy has reared it's ugly head. More like 'lack of knowledge by fighter jocks' has reared it's ugly head I'd say... It's quite amazing to me that a supposedly intelligent pilot like Ed would show his bare ass so badly in public . There's an image that makes even the brave quake. Cut me a bit of slack please. Ed Rasimus Did we hurt the tender feelings of our local expert on everything? You are an ass, Pinkham. Ed, and several others on this group, have years of experience, much of it "white knuckle" time. What are your qualifications? Have you ever been in a cockpit? Either learn some respect or go away. Al Minyard |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 20:26:25 GMT, "Gene Storey"
wrote: "ArtKramr" wrote he was smart to pick an organization that knows how to treat aircrew like mature adult men: MAC Our aircrew averaged 19 years old. (grin) I was in an outfit where even LtCol's had to be instructed (and maintain) currency in tying their shoes, and reporting to TAC HQ when deviations were found (bean count). 40 year old "kids!" Then I went to the "Black Hole" in Egypt, got off a 141, and a MAC Colonel was standing at the BBQ with his shirt off, and wearing his shower trunks and a golf hat with bird insignia, asking if we wanted one or two pieces of chicken... When I replied I could kill for a beer with that, he kicked open a foot-locker packed in ice and had probably 200 cans of Falstaff... We all fainted. He got more work out of me in 30 days, then TAC got out of me in 14 years. Isn't it amazing how much more work a guy can get by treating his troops decently? Al Minyard |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 21:30:30 GMT, "Gord Beaman" )
wrote: Ed Rasimus wrote: But, we didn't go through the "mother may I" routine that I described in the excerpt. We were "standardized" for sure, but we weren't ritualized. Cut me a bit of slack please. Ed Rasimus Of course...and I fully realize that your post was meant to show up the humour in the situation (and was quite well done too). Also I can readily understand how a pilot and a WSO who fly together constantly on an a/c designed to be quite intuitively flown could develop a working scenario where minimum chatter is involved. But when a PIC and a Co-pilot are picked at random to fly a large passenger airliner then procedures need to be standardized so that everyone is using the same songbook. Toss in a third crewman as used to be the case and you have a lot of chances for disaster if they're not all on the same page. It may sound silly but there's a really good reason for standardization. Hell, most flying establishments have a whole section devoted to 'standards' alone. Large airlines (and the military) don't pump millions into a theory just for the hell of it. Millions and millions of dollars are at stake, Airlines just cannot take the same chances that the military can...Look at TWA...one crash and the company bites the dust. The '...whole...damned...company...' mind you, there's the matter of some 230 people dying as well. And this one wasn't a matter of 'standards' but it's certainly possible that 'unstandard operation' could (and has) cause just as disastrous a result. Anyway, perhaps I shouldn't be trying to teach you anything but you must admit that with all the possibilities that exist in a large modern airliner's cockpit for misunderstanding that anything that will lessen the possibilities is a good thing. You must also admit that I have much more experience with this aspect of flying than you do. Try NATOPS. That will show you the correct procedure for taking a dump :-) Al Minyard |
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"Eat me, AL!"
I have more time on my back at 35,000', than you have in the Chow Line! "Alan Minyard" wrote in message You are an ass, Pinkham. Ed, and several others on this group, have years of experience, much of it "white knuckle" time. What are your qualifications? Have you ever been in a cockpit? Either learn some respect or go away. Al Minyard |
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"Phineas Pinkham" wrote:
"Eat me, AL!" I have more time on my back at 35,000', than you have in the Chow Line! Yeah, I can see you, racked out in that bunk reading aviation dime novels and looking for a pseudonym. You certainly don't mean that large, airplane was upside down. You'd spill the fruit cup on your flight lunch. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (ret) ***"When Thunder Rolled: *** An F-105 Pilot Over N. Vietnam" *** from Smithsonian Books ISBN: 1588341038 |
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message Yeah, I can see you, racked out in that bunk reading aviation dime novels and looking for a pseudonym. You certainly don't mean that large, airplane was upside down. You'd spill the fruit cup on your flight lunch. Ed Rasimus The jealous hack responds!~ What a treat. Say hello to Jessica and her ghost for us. Maybe they'll take you to lunch at the Brown Palace on her Book Tour? But no job in the TV version or the Movie! You mean you are using your real name on this NG? Phineas Pinkham Boonetown, Iowa 12th Ftr Wg Ftr Pilot (never Ret'd.) *** Italian Vamoose by Ghost Writer Joe Archibald |
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