"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
.. .

I reckon I should get about ten votes. At least one for not reading the
enquirer, one more for reading intelligent newspapers and eight for
watching fox news just to **** myself laughing at it.

"Fox news" is a contradiction in terms.

"Wolfgang Schwanke" wrote in message
...

*) Christianity and evolution aren't actually in conflict, except from
a very naive interpretation of christianity which is an insult for all
mature believers.

Even in grade school the nuns taught us that science and faith can easily co-exist.
Christian humility should lead believers to the conclusion that "If God chose to create
mankind through evolution, thus making us descendants of ape-like creatures and related to
everything from pond scum to naked mole rats, that is his will and it doesn't change the
end product."

OTOH, it is the Creationists who are guilty of overweening hubris. They implicitly are
denying that God had the power to create mankind any damn way he pleases, and explicitly
asserting that he went through all the trouble of inhabiting the entire earth with bogus
scientific evidence just to mislead mankind away from faith in him.

Not that I view homo sapiens as being at the pinnacle of the universe, but if you want to
carry on the argument over how we got here, you can easily embrace evolution within the
framework of religious dogma.

Martin Hotze wrote:
Andreus schrieb:
I was astounded that Iowa would accept Obama as a candidate who
happened to be black, instead of as a black candidate. Perhaps the US
does believe it can evolve.


Obama is not black. He is half white. Why does the black
half supersede the white half in America?

I don't get it. The attitude is like the black genes are
superior to the white genes

Tiger Woods is half Asian but the left wing media slobbers
over him also like he is all black.

I just don't get it. I also resent Obama "hiding" and
"ignoring" his white blood. I guarantee when he arrives in
the deep South that attitude will not play worth a damn.

"Kissing the Black Ass" is an epidemic in America

WolfRat wrote in :

Martin Hotze wrote:
Andreus schrieb:
I was astounded that Iowa would accept Obama as a candidate who
happened to be black, instead of as a black candidate. Perhaps the US
does believe it can evolve.


Obama is not black. He is half white. Why does the black
half supersede the white half in America?


Suppose the same reason most people prefer dark chocolate to white.

Who cares?


I don't get it.


Obviously.

Bertie

In article ,
Thomas Borchert wrote:

Bob,

Denying the theory of evolution is not necessarily anti-science.

I can't see how it isn't.

OK. then we'll just have to disagree


Are people going to demand some kind litmus test for embracing
science of Presidential candidates? Can we apply that to voters
too?


It would certainly make sense (in both cases ;-)). Everything happening
around us is based in science. A thorough understanding of the
scientific process is pretty much mandatory for making decisions, at
least if they're supposed to be good ones.

The way I look at it is that science can be useful for trying to explain
and predict the real world around us. For hundreds of years Newtonian
physics provided a pretty good model of the real world and useful for
making predictions about how things would work. Scientific evidence
today shows that Newtonian physics is incomplete for certain
environments. Who knows what other limitations of our understanding
exist?

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

In article ,
Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:

*) Christianity and evolution aren't actually in conflict, except from
a very naive interpretation of christianity which is an insult for all
mature believers.

Allow me to commit the sin of posting a "I agree" reply. ;-)

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

"Neil Gould" wrote in
:

Recently, Bob Noel posted:

In article ,
Thomas Borchert wrote:

Bob,

I'd rather have someone as President with limited science knowledge


That's not the point. Denying evolution is not a lack of knowledge,
it is an anti-science stance. It is unforgivable in a president (as
has been well demonstrated by the current one, I might add).

Denying the theory of evolution is not necessarily anti-science.

Are people going to demand some kind litmus test for embracing
science of Presidential candidates?

If they can't tell the difference between science and religion, they
don't qualify for any position that has to make decisions based in
science.


Or common sense even.

To reduce it to a simplistic scenario, if you were a group of farmers
living in an entirely agri dependent world, you wouldn't elect a ballerina
to represent you.


Bertie

Bob Noel wrote in news:ihatessppaamm-
:




The way I look at it is that science can be useful for trying to explain
and predict the real world around us. For hundreds of years Newtonian
physics provided a pretty good model of the real world and useful for
making predictions about how things would work. Scientific evidence
today shows that Newtonian physics is incomplete for certain
environments. Who knows what other limitations of our understanding
exist?



But up to the point einsteinian physics came into being, nobody but nutjobs
went around denying that gravity existed.


Bertie

Well, I am not American, I am a German/French immigrant to Canada and I
describe Obama as black because he is often described so by the press. If it
offfends you, well then it offends you, not my problem. Do you have any
evidence that Obama is hiding his heritage? It seems he has been fairly
clear about it, and the fact that he does not speak "inner city" would
indicate to me that he is not anxious to be percieved as anything much
different than he appears. Perhaps it will please you better if I describe
him as "not 100% Aryan".

"WolfRat" wrote in message
...

Obama is not black. He is half white. Why does the black half supersede
the white half in America?

I don't get it. The attitude is like the black genes are superior to the
white genes


I just don't get it. I also resent Obama "hiding" and "ignoring" his white
blood. I guarantee when he arrives in the deep South that attitude will
not play worth a damn.

"Kissing the Black Ass" is an epidemic in America

"Andreus" wrote in
:

Well, I am not American, I am a German/French immigrant to Canada and
I describe Obama as black because he is often described so by the
press. If it offfends you, well then it offends you, not my problem.
Do you have any evidence that Obama is hiding his heritage? It seems
he has been fairly clear about it, and the fact that he does not speak
"inner city" would indicate to me that he is not anxious to be
percieved as anything much different than he appears. Perhaps it will
please you better if I describe him as "not 100% Aryan".###



I'm not black and I'm not 100 percent Aryan.


Bertie