c-152 rudder???

No C-150's EVER lost their tails in flight.

That's what I thought, too. There's certainly some concern for those rudder
components, but they're being scrutinized, as they should be.

I, too, hope to buy a 152 some day soon. I want it to be an A152 so that I can
do legal loops and spins just for the fun of it whenever I get the urge. I also
think high wing planes have lots going for them in safety (spin
characteristics) and convenience (door access, view, sun protection, rain
protection, etc.) I haven't even gotten into the nostalgia aspect. I have so
many years spent riding in Cessnas that owning one seems like the only loyal
thing I could do.

Dave Sproul, Bethesda, MD

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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If I unwound the multi-level quoting right, Ron Natalie wrote:
Doubt that even if the rudder fell off a 152 it would cause an
accident.
Most 152 pilots don't do anything with those pedals other than taxi.

I assume you're joking when you say that. My guess is that if a 152
lost its rudder, it would be completely uncontrollable. Having a
rudder and not using it is a whole different ball game from having it
fall off. Even if it's just hanging on the back of the plane unloved
and unused, it's contributing to lateral stability.


If you lost the vertical fin and the rudder you might have trouble. The
loss of the rudder alone probably wouldn't make things deadly.

Michael wrote:

No C-150's EVER lost their tails in flight.

Thanks for the clarification...

G.R. Patterson III wrote:

The Rebel wrote:

..... sips fuel at a modest 8-9 gph, .....


If your 152 is burning this much gas, either someone stuck an O-320 in it or you
need to learn what that red knob is for.

Yah, should burn 6 or better. It only burns like 10 with everything
firewalled.

Nick Funk wrote:
Your forgeting one important use of the rudder.
SPINS!
Makes flying a little more fun.


Yah, as I said most 152 pilots don't touch them. These guys think
they've spun it if one wing gets a foot lower than the other on their
stall recovery.

-Ron
(I have spun a 152, my crazy roommate flight instructor decided we should
do that on my second lesson).

Roy Smith wrote:
If I unwound the multi-level quoting right, Ron Natalie wrote:

Doubt that even if the rudder fell off a 152 it would cause an accident.
Most 152 pilots don't do anything with those pedals other than taxi.


I assume you're joking when you say that. My guess is that if a 152
lost its rudder, it would be completely uncontrollable. Having a
rudder and not using it is a whole different ball game from having it
fall off. Even if it's just hanging on the back of the plane unloved
and unused, it's contributing to lateral stability.

There's plenty of verticle stab left even if the rudder would fall off.
What I'd be more concerned with is it only falling partially off and putting
me into hell of a slip.

Geez, Jay. I looked hard for a smiley and couldn't find it. While it
"could" say something about the marriage, that is certainly not a
given. A right-seat (or left-seat) wife is not a prerequisite to a
good marraige. I was married for 28 years before I learned how to
fly. My wife is very apprehensive about it, although she is gettting
more and more tolerant as time goes by. We now take short flights for
lunch and that sort of a thing. The fact that most of my flights are
solo says nothing about my marriage. If anything, my wife should be
commended for putting up with such an expensive activity that she
derives so little pleasure from. You have an ideal situation but give
the guy a break.

very well put.

I didn't say that every guy whose wife won't fly with him has a bad
marriage. Here's the way I was reading the story:

1. Poor schmuck buys a 4-seat plane -- 2 more seats than he really wants --
with the intention that his family will accompany him on flying trips.

2. After buying the plane, his family (wife, whatever) refuses to fly with
him, and he's left owning a 4-seat plane that he "hates"...

Sounds to me like he/she skipped the part that goes: "Hey honey -- if I
learn to fly and buy this here airplane, would you fly with me?"

Now, maybe I'm reading more into the story than I should, but don't you
think at the very LEAST this would indicate an incredible lack of
communication between the husband and wife?

Communication is "Step 1.0" in the flying/marriage equation. If he didn't
even do that much, he's either incredibly dense, or there's a problem with
the marriage.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Since we have inherited a new child along with two grandkids, my husband
may have to speed up his work on the C-195!

Now THAT is a cool traveling machine. The grandkids will be going in
*style*!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Now, maybe I'm reading more into the story than I should, but don't you
think at the very LEAST this would indicate an incredible lack of
communication between the husband and wife?

Never mind. Deb's later post clarified this guy's reason for buying a
4-seater.

I wonder why his Dad never flew with him again?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"