torpedo attack

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"John Keeney" wrote in message
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When was the last air launched torpedo attack made?
Was it as long agao as the attack on the dam gates in Korea?

Falklands April 25, 1982, a lynx from HMS Brilliant attacked the
Santa Fe with an air launched torpoedo that failed to detonate due to
incorrect fusing.

Source, article titled "Sink the Santa Fe!", July 2007, Sea Classics.



That in it self is a wild narative. they fire everything but the kitchen
sink at that sub. Depth charges, torpedoes, machine guns and missiles.


http://www.navynews.co.uk/falklands/...8202042501.asp


BTW: the Santa Fe was the EX-US sub Catfish SS-339
Theres a picture of some of the damage to the sub

http://www.rontini.com/catfish.htm

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On Jun 11, 6:02 pm, "cdr" wrote:
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When was the last air launched torpedo attack made?
Was it as long agao as the attack on the dam gates in Korea?

Falklands April 25, 1982, a lynx from HMS Brilliant attacked the Santa
Fe
with an air launched torpoedo that failed to detonate due to incorrect
fusing.

Source, article titled "Sink the Santa Fe!", July 2007, Sea Classics.

Curious, I wonder what kind of fusing decisions would do that.

Target on surface when the expected target was supposed to be submerged;
"deep" water weapon used in "shallow" water....

The wikipedia story of the attack:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Santa_Fe_%28S-21%29

says that a Mk 46 torpedo was used for the attack.

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On Jun 11, 6:02 pm, "cdr" wrote:
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When was the last air launched torpedo attack made?
Was it as long agao as the attack on the dam gates in Korea?

Falklands April 25, 1982, a lynx from HMS Brilliant attacked the Santa
Fe
with an air launched torpoedo that failed to detonate due to incorrect
fusing.

Source, article titled "Sink the Santa Fe!", July 2007, Sea Classics.

Curious, I wonder what kind of fusing decisions would do that.

Target on surface when the expected target was supposed to be submerged;
"deep" water weapon used in "shallow" water....

The wikipedia story of the attack:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Santa_Fe_%28S-21%29

says that a Mk 46 torpedo was used for the attack.


From the wikipedia page about Santa Fe:

-quote-
"In 1982, the Santa Fe took part in the Falklands War[2] alongside the ARA
San Luis, the only two submarines in the Argentine Navy."
-unquote-

AFAIK there were two German type 209 submarines in the Argentine Navy when
the Falklands War started (ARA Salta and ARA San Luis). Perhaps the word
"operational" should be added. Furthermore it's somewhat doubtful whether
Santa Fe should be referred to as a submarine at this time since her diving
capability was marginal at best.

Regards,

Per Nordenberg

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On Jun 11, 6:02 pm, "cdr" wrote:
"John Keeney" wrote in message

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When was the last air launched torpedo attack made?
Was it as long agao as the attack on the dam gates in Korea?

Falklands April 25, 1982, a lynx from HMS Brilliant attacked the
Santa
Fe
with an air launched torpoedo that failed to detonate due to
incorrect
fusing.

Source, article titled "Sink the Santa Fe!", July 2007, Sea Classics.

Curious, I wonder what kind of fusing decisions would do that.

Target on surface when the expected target was supposed to be submerged;
"deep" water weapon used in "shallow" water....

The wikipedia story of the attack:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Santa_Fe_%28S-21%29

says that a Mk 46 torpedo was used for the attack.


From the wikipedia page about Santa Fe:

-quote-
"In 1982, the Santa Fe took part in the Falklands War[2] alongside the ARA
San Luis, the only two submarines in the Argentine Navy."

If you click on the San Luis link in that quote on wikipedia you get this:

"... Only one other submarine, the old Second World War era ARA Santa Fe was
also operational at this time. "

-unquote-

AFAIK there were two German type 209 submarines in the Argentine Navy when
the Falklands War started (ARA Salta and ARA San Luis). Perhaps the word
"operational" should be added. Furthermore it's somewhat doubtful whether
Santa Fe should be referred to as a submarine at this time since her
diving
capability was marginal at best.

It was considered an adequate submarine transport by the Argentine Navy to
be tasked with landing about 40 Marines on South Georgia shortly before it
was depth charged.


Regards,

Per Nordenberg

On Jun 11, 12:23 am, John Keeney wrote:
When was the last air launched torpedo attack made?
Was it as long agao as the attack on the dam gates in Korea?


Don't worry about the LAST one. Worry about the NEXT one 'cause it's
gonna be against a US target.

cdr wrote:
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On Jun 11, 6:02 pm, "cdr" wrote:
"John Keeney" wrote in message

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When was the last air launched torpedo attack made?
Was it as long agao as the attack on the dam gates in Korea?
Falklands April 25, 1982, a lynx from HMS Brilliant attacked the
Santa
Fe
with an air launched torpoedo that failed to detonate due to
incorrect
fusing.

Source, article titled "Sink the Santa Fe!", July 2007, Sea Classics.
Curious, I wonder what kind of fusing decisions would do that.
Target on surface when the expected target was supposed to be submerged;
"deep" water weapon used in "shallow" water....

The wikipedia story of the attack:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Santa_Fe_%28S-21%29

says that a Mk 46 torpedo was used for the attack.

From the wikipedia page about Santa Fe:

-quote-
"In 1982, the Santa Fe took part in the Falklands War[2] alongside the ARA
San Luis, the only two submarines in the Argentine Navy."

If you click on the San Luis link in that quote on wikipedia you get this:

"... Only one other submarine, the old Second World War era ARA Santa Fe was
also operational at this time. "

-unquote-

AFAIK there were two German type 209 submarines in the Argentine Navy when
the Falklands War started (ARA Salta and ARA San Luis). Perhaps the word
"operational" should be added. Furthermore it's somewhat doubtful whether
Santa Fe should be referred to as a submarine at this time since her
diving
capability was marginal at best.

It was considered an adequate submarine transport by the Argentine Navy to
be tasked with landing about 40 Marines on South Georgia shortly before it
was depth charged.

Regards,

Per Nordenberg





Why would anyone wish to depth charge South Georgia?

;-)

--
Moving things in still pictures!

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On Jun 11, 6:02 pm, "cdr" wrote:
"John Keeney" wrote in message

oups.com...

When was the last air launched torpedo attack made?
Was it as long agao as the attack on the dam gates in Korea?

Falklands April 25, 1982, a lynx from HMS Brilliant attacked the Santa
Fe
with an air launched torpoedo that failed to detonate due to incorrect
fusing.

Source, article titled "Sink the Santa Fe!", July 2007, Sea Classics.

Curious, I wonder what kind of fusing decisions would do that.

Warship International Vol 43 Number 1 page 22 through 24 answers a readers
question about the fate of the Santa Fe that includes the following comment
related to the torpedo attack:

"The 'Lynx' launched a torpedo, and strafed with its pintle mounted General
Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG). However the ASW torpedo fired at Santa Fe's
screws was ineffective because it would not detonate unless the target is
more than 30-ft underwater and Santa Fe was on the surface."