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Overstressed King Air
Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at
27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. As you can see, did a real number on the empennage and buckled the wings. God smiled upon these lads, no doubt about it. (Did someone mention VNE?) You can Google N777AJ |
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"Alan" wrote in
: Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. Sounds like grounds for litigation to me........... |
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Alan" wrote in : Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. Sounds like grounds for litigation to me........... 0. Remember that the flight recorder hears every word 0a. "Ah, non-pertinent remark" 0b. "Wonder what bird flies at FL27? 0c. "I smell something, is that you?" 1. Perform Preflight checklist -- O2 pressure in limits? 2. Don O2 masks and confirm supply switches on auto 3. In-flight emergency checklist 3a. Call out mayday or Pan message to ATC 3b. Squawk transponder to emergency 3c. Begin descent 3d. Alert Pax, if any 3e. Reduce pressure with steady downward reduction curve 4. RTB and find the responsible mech 4a. Punch his lights out 4b Call the boss tell him his plane is a no go for tomorrow's Gambler's Special and Hookers Hook-up in Las Vegas 5. Change underwear 6. Go to nearest church and thank G-d 7. Get drunk as a skunk |
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the oxymoron bird flies at 27K?
"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message . .. Mitchell Holman wrote: "Alan" wrote in : Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. Sounds like grounds for litigation to me........... 0. Remember that the flight recorder hears every word 0a. "Ah, non-pertinent remark" 0b. "Wonder what bird flies at FL27? 0c. "I smell something, is that you?" 1. Perform Preflight checklist -- O2 pressure in limits? 2. Don O2 masks and confirm supply switches on auto 3. In-flight emergency checklist 3a. Call out mayday or Pan message to ATC 3b. Squawk transponder to emergency 3c. Begin descent 3d. Alert Pax, if any 3e. Reduce pressure with steady downward reduction curve 4. RTB and find the responsible mech 4a. Punch his lights out 4b Call the boss tell him his plane is a no go for tomorrow's Gambler's Special and Hookers Hook-up in Las Vegas 5. Change underwear 6. Go to nearest church and thank G-d 7. Get drunk as a skunk |
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I am thinking maybe an ice chunk from the B757's aft crapper flying at FL39?
Anyways, I meant it all as humor. In reality, the last line of the NTSB report intimates that if the system worked on the ground it had to work in the air. How many of us believe that? Cheers, Dave Herb wrote: the oxymoron bird flies at 27K? "CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message . .. Mitchell Holman wrote: "Alan" wrote in : Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. Sounds like grounds for litigation to me........... 0. Remember that the flight recorder hears every word 0a. "Ah, non-pertinent remark" 0b. "Wonder what bird flies at FL27? 0c. "I smell something, is that you?" 1. Perform Preflight checklist -- O2 pressure in limits? 2. Don O2 masks and confirm supply switches on auto 3. In-flight emergency checklist 3a. Call out mayday or Pan message to ATC 3b. Squawk transponder to emergency 3c. Begin descent 3d. Alert Pax, if any 3e. Reduce pressure with steady downward reduction curve 4. RTB and find the responsible mech 4a. Punch his lights out 4b Call the boss tell him his plane is a no go for tomorrow's Gambler's Special and Hookers Hook-up in Las Vegas 5. Change underwear 6. Go to nearest church and thank G-d 7. Get drunk as a skunk |
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CWO4 Dave Mann wrote in
: I am thinking maybe an ice chunk from the B757's aft crapper flying at FL39? Anyways, I meant it all as humor. In reality, the last line of the NTSB report intimates that if the system worked on the ground it had to work in the air. How many of us believe that? Cheers, Dave I wonder about one of the "other" report about debris from the aircraft being seen falling around, but not striking a med-helicopter below them.. |
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Dave,
I take issue at "finding the responsible mech". In over 20 years of working on the model 200 I saw only one cracked windshield was as a result of an improper installation (and it wasn't me so don't go there). More often than not, it was turning on the W/S anti-ice on later in climbout or at cruise that the pane cracked due to cold soak and the resulting thermal shock. I think our heroic crew may share some culpability on this miracle of survival. I don't know about the new one's coming out but you have to arm the oxygen system to make it available for use on the King Air. It's on the prestart checklist. Change 0c. to 5. Change 5. to 5a. Alan "CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message . .. Mitchell Holman wrote: "Alan" wrote in : Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. Sounds like grounds for litigation to me........... 0. Remember that the flight recorder hears every word 0a. "Ah, non-pertinent remark" 0b. "Wonder what bird flies at FL27? 0c. "I smell something, is that you?" 1. Perform Preflight checklist -- O2 pressure in limits? 2. Don O2 masks and confirm supply switches on auto 3. In-flight emergency checklist 3a. Call out mayday or Pan message to ATC 3b. Squawk transponder to emergency 3c. Begin descent 3d. Alert Pax, if any 3e. Reduce pressure with steady downward reduction curve 4. RTB and find the responsible mech 4a. Punch his lights out 4b Call the boss tell him his plane is a no go for tomorrow's Gambler's Special and Hookers Hook-up in Las Vegas 5. Change underwear 6. Go to nearest church and thank G-d 7. Get drunk as a skunk |
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Yes Alan, you are correct and my face is somewhat red. Most of the
C12/B200 accidents I know about were due to the old collapsing landing gear syndrome. I am voting for a falling piece of ice from FL 500 dumped by the Area 51 Latest Stealth job. Cheers, Dave Alan wrote: Dave, I take issue at "finding the responsible mech". In over 20 years of working on the model 200 I saw only one cracked windshield was as a result of an improper installation (and it wasn't me so don't go there). More often than not, it was turning on the W/S anti-ice on later in climbout or at cruise that the pane cracked due to cold soak and the resulting thermal shock. I think our heroic crew may share some culpability on this miracle of survival. I don't know about the new one's coming out but you have to arm the oxygen system to make it available for use on the King Air. It's on the prestart checklist. Change 0c. to 5. Change 5. to 5a. Alan "CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message . .. Mitchell Holman wrote: "Alan" wrote in : Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. Sounds like grounds for litigation to me........... 0. Remember that the flight recorder hears every word 0a. "Ah, non-pertinent remark" 0b. "Wonder what bird flies at FL27? 0c. "I smell something, is that you?" 1. Perform Preflight checklist -- O2 pressure in limits? 2. Don O2 masks and confirm supply switches on auto 3. In-flight emergency checklist 3a. Call out mayday or Pan message to ATC 3b. Squawk transponder to emergency 3c. Begin descent 3d. Alert Pax, if any 3e. Reduce pressure with steady downward reduction curve 4. RTB and find the responsible mech 4a. Punch his lights out 4b Call the boss tell him his plane is a no go for tomorrow's Gambler's Special and Hookers Hook-up in Las Vegas 5. Change underwear 6. Go to nearest church and thank G-d 7. Get drunk as a skunk |
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In article ,
Mitchell Holman wrote: "Alan" wrote in : Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. Sounds like grounds for litigation to me........... That NTSB report said the O2 system worked on the ground. It also said the crew dumped pressurization THEN donned masks...perhaps doing that in the reverse order would have been better. |
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"Dale" wrote in message ... In article , Mitchell Holman wrote: "Alan" wrote in : Passed on to me from a friend - evidently the pilot's windshield cracked at 27k feet, the crew dumped pressurization per the checklist and donned oxygen - only there wasn't any coming to the masks. They passed out and woke up at about 7000 ft and had to pull out of the dive. Sounds like grounds for litigation to me........... That NTSB report said the O2 system worked on the ground. It also said the crew dumped pressurization THEN donned masks...perhaps doing that in the reverse order would have been better. Flight manual advises to slowly reduce the pressure in the cabin but make sure there is a + ve px in the cabin to support cracked window. IE.. they shouldn't have dumped px. Oxy should have been on already and available at the masks. These clowns turned a run of the mill cracked windscreen into a major drama that has stuffed an airframe and nearly killed themselves. |
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