ATC "cancellation" of scheduled carrier flights?

While discussing reimbursement of hotel bills from a major airline, I
was told that my flight(s) were cancelled BY ATC.

Now, I know that ATC can delay IFR clearances/takeoffs based on
weather, traffic volume, landing slots at the destination, and
probably cosmic ray intensity as well, but I have never heard that ATC
can CANCEL flights.

For you ATC folks - are they blowing smoke up my ass? Can ATC CANCEL
a flight? Can you point me to the regulations that cover this area,
so that I can do my own research?

Thanks in advance.

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Marc J. Zeitlin
http://www.cozybuilders.org/
Copyright (c) 2006

"Marc J. Zeitlin" wrote in message
...

While discussing reimbursement of hotel bills from a major airline, I was
told that my flight(s) were cancelled BY ATC.

Now, I know that ATC can delay IFR clearances/takeoffs based on weather,
traffic volume, landing slots at the destination, and probably cosmic ray
intensity as well, but I have never heard that ATC can CANCEL flights.

For you ATC folks - are they blowing smoke up my ass?


Yes.



Can ATC CANCEL a flight?

No.



Can you point me to the regulations that cover this area, so that I can do
my own research?


www.faa.gov/atpubs

Marc J. Zeitlin wrote:

While discussing reimbursement of hotel bills from a major airline, I
was told that my flight(s) were cancelled BY ATC.

Airlines cancel flights. But, when they cancel because of ATC delays
they are unable to absorb into their fleet operational planning the
airline typically considers that to be a cancellation that they did not
cause. It is not unlike cancellation for weather.

Sam Spade wrote in news:bODHg.8144$cw.4721@fed1read03:

Marc J. Zeitlin wrote:

While discussing reimbursement of hotel bills from a major airline, I
was told that my flight(s) were cancelled BY ATC.

Airlines cancel flights. But, when they cancel because of ATC delays
they are unable to absorb into their fleet operational planning the
airline typically considers that to be a cancellation that they did not
cause. It is not unlike cancellation for weather.

That's a bad customer service policy.

Judah wrote:
Sam Spade wrote in news:bODHg.8144$cw.4721@fed1read03:


Marc J. Zeitlin wrote:


While discussing reimbursement of hotel bills from a major airline, I
was told that my flight(s) were cancelled BY ATC.


Airlines cancel flights. But, when they cancel because of ATC delays
they are unable to absorb into their fleet operational planning the
airline typically considers that to be a cancellation that they did not
cause. It is not unlike cancellation for weather.


That's a bad customer service policy.

Like they care about customer service?

Sam Spade wrote in news:5nKHg.14$c07.3@fed1read04:

Judah wrote:
Sam Spade wrote in news:bODHg.8144$cw.4721@fed1read03:


Marc J. Zeitlin wrote:


While discussing reimbursement of hotel bills from a major airline, I
was told that my flight(s) were cancelled BY ATC.


Airlines cancel flights. But, when they cancel because of ATC delays
they are unable to absorb into their fleet operational planning the
airline typically considers that to be a cancellation that they did not
cause. It is not unlike cancellation for weather.


That's a bad customer service policy.

Like they care about customer service?

Some do. The profitable ones, anyway.

Judah wrote:
Sam Spade wrote in news:5nKHg.14$c07.3@fed1read04:


Judah wrote:

Sam Spade wrote in news:bODHg.8144$cw.4721@fed1read03:



Marc J. Zeitlin wrote:



While discussing reimbursement of hotel bills from a major airline, I
was told that my flight(s) were cancelled BY ATC.


Airlines cancel flights. But, when they cancel because of ATC delays
they are unable to absorb into their fleet operational planning the
airline typically considers that to be a cancellation that they did not
cause. It is not unlike cancellation for weather.


That's a bad customer service policy.

Like they care about customer service?


Some do. The profitable ones, anyway.

Show me the way. They all suck that I use.

Judah writes:
Sam Spade wrote
Judah wrote:
Sam Spade wrote
Marc J. Zeitlin wrote:

While discussing reimbursement of hotel bills from a major airline, I
was told that my flight(s) were cancelled BY ATC.

Airlines cancel flights. But, when they cancel because of ATC delays
they are unable to absorb into their fleet operational planning the
airline typically considers that to be a cancellation that they did not
cause. It is not unlike cancellation for weather.

That's a bad customer service policy.

Like they care about customer service?

Some do. The profitable ones, anyway.

I thought "profitable airlines" was an oxymoron.

I've read that the airline industry in toto has yet
to show a net profit for its nearly 100 year history.