Taxi instructions

"Richard Russell" wrote in message
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That is correct. If the tower had more accurately described my taxi
route I would not have had any hesitation about crossing the
"non-active" runway on the way to 36.


In what way was their description deficient?

(Effie Andree Wiltens) wrote in message . com...

Uhm, perhaps I can venture a remark here. When I was flying at KHPN,
where multi-runway use is not uncommon, I was told that it was not
necessary to obtain crossing clearance on the way to the active runway
I was cleared for.

Ditto at BED, which operates much like HPN.

I'm used to more stringent runway infringement
rules in other countries, I guess, and since it's no trouble to me I
always stopped short of any runway and asked for clearance to cross at
my position. It's a big busy airport, after all, and it is possible
for some light arircraft popping up from behind the trees not seeing
me in time.
Sometimes ATC was annoyed at having to deal with my "unnecessary
call", but I still think it's a good practice.

FAA rules generally err on the conservative side so it's probably
unnecessary, but I know a lot of guys who, if they have any question
at a busy field, will say, "Cessna 123 crossing runway X" as they
approach the hold short line. Personally I slow down and take a good
look whether I've been cleared or not.

Also, ground ops are often somewhat idiosyncratic to the individual
field. If I'm at all unsure I'll say, "Ground, we're not based here,
you want us to do XYZ?" and they'll usually be good about it.

-cwk.

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 02:56:22 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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If I may, if I read the original post correctly, I believe the
clearance is deficient in a similar way to ones at BED can sometimes
be deficient. If they're using runway 23, it's pretty much universal
for them to give taxi clearances like "Taxi via Sierra Echo Golf to
23". There is no G on the 23 side of runway 29, it turns into taxiway
H, but I cannot recall ever hearing them say "Taxi via Juliet Echo
Golf Hotel to 23". It's just done that people taxi over 29 and hold
short of 23, unless they have a jet inbound for 29, but they'll always
say "Taxi via Sierra Echo Golf to 23 hold short 29" in that instance.


Why do you find that deficient? Once you're on taxiway Golf, how many ways
are there to taxi to rynway 23?

There are no other ways to get to 23 from Golf. There's also no other
way (unless you're going to cross the active or taxi on runway 29 for
a bit) to get over to 23 from E, so why not just say "taxi to 23 via
Sierra Echo"? Being pedantic, I think the clearance is deficient in
that they've given me taxiway designations that get me to 29 but not
to 23 because the taxiway designator changes, similar to what I
believe happened to the original poster. I know that the 1st time I
was going to 23 at BED I got confused because I got to 29 and didn't
see a G sign on the far side of the runway. Quick glance at the
diagram I had out solved it, but still.

"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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Why do you find that deficient? Once you're on taxiway Golf, how many
ways
are there to taxi to rynway 23?


There are no other ways to get to 23 from Golf.


Exactly!