Companies Allowing Employees to Fly

Hewlett Packard used to allow it when the president was a pilot
and the executive suite was mostly rated. Took IR and 3 million
smooth policy. Try buying that sometime.

There were two categories: Company benefit and personal benefit.

On personal, you could only have members of you family on board.

Long since gone. Carly flew too, but on a different scale :-\

Bill Hale


Ross Richardson wrote:
Steve - KDMW wrote:

Question...

I have to do a lot of regional travel for my company and, due to the
work we do, most of my work is actually at airports. I've asked my
company if I can use my personal aircraft for a lot of this travel and
they denied my request due to what the company percieves as their
liability in the matter.

Is my company misguided or do they really have some liability if I use
my airplane instead of my car for regional travel? What's the
difference between me crashing my airplane into a school (their
example) or plowing my car into the same school's bus stop?

Steve
CP - ASEL/IA
PA28-151
N43291


When I worked for Texas Instruments we had a specific policy AGAINST it.
I had several occasions that would have been nice. When Raytheon bought
the defense business of TI, I checked the policy and we COULD use
personal aircraft. But, then again, Raytheon owns Beech.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

Ross Richardson wrote:


When I worked for Texas Instruments we had a specific policy AGAINST it.
I had several occasions that would have been nice. When Raytheon bought
the defense business of TI, I checked the policy and we COULD use
personal aircraft. But, then again, Raytheon owns Beech.


Yeah, I'll let you know. Textron (Cessna, Lycoming, Bell Helicopters)
just announced they are buying my company.

Steve - KDMW wrote:
Question...

I have to do a lot of regional travel for my company and, due to the
work we do, most of my work is actually at airports. I've asked my
company if I can use my personal aircraft for a lot of this travel and
they denied my request due to what the company percieves as their
liability in the matter.

Is my company misguided or do they really have some liability if I use
my airplane instead of my car for regional travel? What's the
difference between me crashing my airplane into a school (their
example) or plowing my car into the same school's bus stop?

Steve
CP - ASEL/IA
PA28-151
N43291

If you are using YOUR car for THEIR business endevors YOU many NOT be
covered under your insurance! You need to GET IT IN WRITING from YOUR
insurance company and theirs!! that YOUR covered! PERIOD no BULL-
**** this is serious!!!!!!!!!!

You have some sort of problem using YOUR car you may find yourself
with out ANY coverage at all!!! everyone WILL BAIL on you!! your
insurance and THEIRS! don't be stupid CHECK IT OUT! in America it's
EVERY FAMILY FOR ITSELF NOW!

Many people have been SHAFTED and have lost everything thinking they
are covered!

In article .com,
"Steve - KDMW" wrote:

Question...

I have to do a lot of regional travel for my company and, due to the
work we do, most of my work is actually at airports. I've asked my
company if I can use my personal aircraft for a lot of this travel and
they denied my request due to what the company percieves as their
liability in the matter.

Is my company misguided or do they really have some liability if I use
my airplane instead of my car for regional travel? What's the
difference between me crashing my airplane into a school (their
example) or plowing my car into the same school's bus stop?

fwiw, the MITRE corporation does allow the use of small aircraft.
Prior permission is required (at some Officer level) and naming
the company on your insurance (of at least $1,000,000). I've only
been able to arrange to use an airplane 4 times for business travel
(the first three before I owned my airplane).

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

wise purchaser wrote:


If you are using YOUR car for THEIR business endevors YOU many NOT be
covered under your insurance! You need to GET IT IN WRITING from YOUR
insurance company and theirs!! that YOUR covered! PERIOD no BULL-
**** this is serious!!!!!!!!!!

You're confusing the issue. The first is whether you have any
liability if you are travelling on company business and have an
accident.

However, the issue we were discussing is whether the company has
liability (and they most certainly do whether you are walking,
driving, or flying).

"Steve - KDMW" wrote in message oups.com...
: Question...
:
: I have to do a lot of regional travel for my company and, due to the
: work we do, most of my work is actually at airports. I've asked my
: company if I can use my personal aircraft for a lot of this travel and
: they denied my request due to what the company percieves as their
: liability in the matter.
:
: Is my company misguided or do they really have some liability if I use
: my airplane instead of my car for regional travel? What's the
: difference between me crashing my airplane into a school (their
: example) or plowing my car into the same school's bus stop?
:
: Steve
: CP - ASEL/IA
: PA28-151
: N43291
:

The company I work for will not allow use of a personal aircraft for company business. Also, they provide a life
insurance policy for all employees, and you guessed it, it will not pay if you die in a private plane. You can die in a
motorcycle crash, but not a light plane. Makes no sense....

..Blueskies. wrote:

"Steve - KDMW" wrote in message oups.com...
: Question...
:
: I have to do a lot of regional travel for my company and, due to the
: work we do, most of my work is actually at airports. I've asked my
: company if I can use my personal aircraft for a lot of this travel and
: they denied my request due to what the company percieves as their
: liability in the matter.
:
: Is my company misguided or do they really have some liability if I use
: my airplane instead of my car for regional travel? What's the
: difference between me crashing my airplane into a school (their
: example) or plowing my car into the same school's bus stop?
:
: Steve
: CP - ASEL/IA
: PA28-151
: N43291
:

The company I work for will not allow use of a personal aircraft for company business. Also, they provide a life
insurance policy for all employees, and you guessed it, it will not pay if you die in a private plane. You can die in a
motorcycle crash, but not a light plane. Makes no sense....

Of course it does, airplanes are scary, but at least they are not as
scary as my .22 target pistol...

Common sense is not very common in this day and age.

--
Jim Pennino

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Ron Natalie wrote:
wise purchaser wrote:


If you are using YOUR car for THEIR business endevors YOU many NOT be
covered under your insurance! You need to GET IT IN WRITING from YOUR
insurance company and theirs!! that YOUR covered! PERIOD no BULL-
**** this is serious!!!!!!!!!!

You're confusing the issue. The first is whether you have any
liability if you are travelling on company business and have an
accident.

However, the issue we were discussing is whether the company has
liability (and they most certainly do whether you are walking,
driving, or flying).

It works BOTH WAYS! you use YOUR personal car for their business and
you can find yourself with no coverage! I have seen for MYSELF just
how much you can count on insurance coveage if you don't cover all of
the bases

They are SMART getting people (suckers) to use their cars for
COMMERCIAL endevors such as pizza deliveries then when some thing goes
WRONG they BAIL! or settle out of court ON THE SIDE excluding YOU from
the settlement YOU still are holding the bag as you are the OWNER of
the car! and you PERSONAL insurance say's your NOT COVERED as the car
was engaged in a commercial use and the policy is PERSONAL

Watch just HOW FAST your personal insurance company runs for COVER or
crawdad's when you ask for in WRITING for coverage on a personal
NON COMMERCIAL policy and your using the car for Business endevors.


People need to STOP being stupid! In america it's EVERY family for
itself now!

Ron Natalie wrote:
wise purchaser wrote:


If you are using YOUR car for THEIR business endevors YOU many NOT be
covered under your insurance! You need to GET IT IN WRITING from YOUR
insurance company and theirs!! that YOUR covered! PERIOD no BULL-
**** this is serious!!!!!!!!!!

You're confusing the issue. The first is whether you have any
liability if you are travelling on company business and have an
accident.

However, the issue we were discussing is whether the company has
liability (and they most certainly do whether you are walking,
driving, or flying).

It works BOTH WAYS! you use YOUR personal car for their business and
you can find yourself with no coverage! I have seen for MYSELF just
how much you can count on insurance coveage if you don't cover all of
the bases

They are SMART getting people (suckers) to use their cars for
COMMERCIAL endevors such as pizza deliveries then when some thing goes
WRONG they BAIL! or settle out of court ON THE SIDE excluding YOU from
the settlement YOU still are holding the bag as you are the OWNER of
the car! and you PERSONAL insurance say's your NOT COVERED as the car
was engaged in a commercial use and the policy is PERSONAL

Watch just HOW FAST your personal insurance company runs for COVER or
crawdad's when you ask for in WRITING for coverage on a personal
NON COMMERCIAL policy and your using the car for Business endevors.


People need to STOP being stupid! In america it's EVERY family for
itself now!

Ron Natalie wrote:
wise purchaser wrote:


If you are using YOUR car for THEIR business endevors YOU many NOT be
covered under your insurance! You need to GET IT IN WRITING from YOUR
insurance company and theirs!! that YOUR covered! PERIOD no BULL-
**** this is serious!!!!!!!!!!

You're confusing the issue. The first is whether you have any
liability if you are travelling on company business and have an
accident.

However, the issue we were discussing is whether the company has
liability (and they most certainly do whether you are walking,
driving, or flying).

It works BOTH WAYS! you use YOUR personal car for their business and
you can find yourself with no coverage! I have seen for MYSELF just
how much you can count on insurance coveage if you don't cover all of
the bases

They are SMART getting people (suckers) to use their cars for
COMMERCIAL endevors such as pizza deliveries then when some thing goes
WRONG they BAIL! or settle out of court ON THE SIDE excluding YOU from
the settlement YOU still are holding the bag as you are the OWNER of
the car! and you PERSONAL insurance say's your NOT COVERED as the car
was engaged in a commercial use and the policy is PERSONAL

Watch just HOW FAST your personal insurance company runs for COVER or
crawdad's when you ask for in WRITING for coverage on a personal
NON COMMERCIAL policy and your using the car for Business endevors.


People need to STOP being stupid! In america it's EVERY family for
itself now!