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Old January 24th 04, 01:59 AM
Tetsuji Rai
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Default Airspeed of military planes

Airspeed limitation below 10000ft is usually 250kts unless you have been
authorized by the Administrator. However I guess it's a bit slow for
military fighters. So I am curious how fast military fighters fly in the
real world. I guess it's very dangerous military aircraft fly much fast
among civilian planes.


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Old January 24th 04, 02:19 AM
John R Weiss
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"Tetsuji Rai" wrote...
Airspeed limitation below 10000ft is usually 250kts unless you have been
authorized by the Administrator. However I guess it's a bit slow for
military fighters. So I am curious how fast military fighters fly in the
real world. I guess it's very dangerous military aircraft fly much fast
among civilian planes.


Many of them fly 250 knots below 10,000'. Some are authorized to fly as fast as
300.

A heavy 747 climbs out at 282 knots...

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Old January 24th 04, 02:35 AM
Casey Wilson
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"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message
s.com...
Airspeed limitation below 10000ft is usually 250kts unless you have been
authorized by the Administrator. However I guess it's a bit slow for
military fighters. So I am curious how fast military fighters fly in the
real world. I guess it's very dangerous military aircraft fly much fast
among civilian planes.


If they are in Special Use Airspace and Military Operating Areas, they can
go as fast as they want -- well, as fast as the mission test plan calls for.
An F-14 Tomcat at Mach 1+, 200 Ft AGL, and 1/2 mile away in a 60 degree
bank with full burner is a visceral thing.


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Old January 24th 04, 02:37 AM
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Many of them fly 250 knots below 10,000'. Some are authorized to fly as fast
as
300.


T-38 was 300 knots.

A heavy 747 climbs out at 282 knots...


A BUFF at 280 KIAS. However we have no waiver for descent/landing/touch-and-go,
so we are obligated to comply with the 250 below 10.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old January 24th 04, 02:42 AM
Tetsuji Rai
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Thank you! It straightened things out. I was wondering this in a flight
sim.

"John R Weiss" wrote in message
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"Tetsuji Rai" wrote...
Airspeed limitation below 10000ft is usually 250kts unless you have been
authorized by the Administrator. However I guess it's a bit slow for
military fighters. So I am curious how fast military fighters fly in

the
real world. I guess it's very dangerous military aircraft fly much

fast
among civilian planes.


Many of them fly 250 knots below 10,000'. Some are authorized to fly as

fast as
300.

A heavy 747 climbs out at 282 knots...



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Old January 24th 04, 02:59 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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A BUFF at 280 KIAS. However we have no waiver for
descent/landing/touch-and-go, so we are obligated to comply
with the 250 below 10.


Not if the minimum safe airspeed for descent/landing/touch-and-go is greater
than 250.


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Old January 24th 04, 03:30 AM
John R Weiss
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"Casey Wilson" wrote...

If they are in Special Use Airspace and Military Operating Areas, they can
go as fast as they want -- well, as fast as the mission test plan calls for.


Not quite...

Supersonic flight is additionally restricted to designated Supersonic corridors
for non-emergency ops.

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Old January 24th 04, 04:41 AM
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"it depends"..

When I was flying the B-1, we would accelerate to 360 knots on climb out..
Coming back down into traffic pattern it was 300knts below 10K
Our flap / gear speed is 240knt (the buzzer comes on below 240knts if the
flaps are not out)

But for low level in IR training routes, we planned 540knt, 500-1500ft AGL
Those IR routes are not in MOA or restricted airspace, but can be, and they
are on the VFR charts for a reason.

BT

"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message
s.com...
Airspeed limitation below 10000ft is usually 250kts unless you have been
authorized by the Administrator. However I guess it's a bit slow for
military fighters. So I am curious how fast military fighters fly in the
real world. I guess it's very dangerous military aircraft fly much fast
among civilian planes.




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Old January 24th 04, 04:46 AM
Dudley Henriques
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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Many of them fly 250 knots below 10,000'. Some are authorized to fly as

fast
as
300.


T-38 was 300 knots.


Hi Buff;

The T38 had a restricted and unrestricted climb schedule for both MIL and
MAX performance climb if I remember right. We couldn't use the MAX climb
schedule outside of the corridors, but a MIL climb at 300kts to 10 grand
followed by an unrestricted IMN climb after that was quite common.


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Old January 24th 04, 05:53 AM
Glenn Westfall
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I'm an Air Force Air Traffic Controller and am currently working in
Okinawa, Japan. We have F-15's here at Kadena and it is not uncommon
for them to come back well above 400 Kts below 10,000. We usually
only worry about slowing them down if they are being sequenced to
follow another aircraft. Close to final, they will usually slow
themselves to 250 Kts or slower unless told otherwise.

Glenn


On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:59:28 GMT, "Tetsuji Rai"
wrote:

Airspeed limitation below 10000ft is usually 250kts unless you have been
authorized by the Administrator. However I guess it's a bit slow for
military fighters. So I am curious how fast military fighters fly in the
real world. I guess it's very dangerous military aircraft fly much fast
among civilian planes.



 




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