WiFi at AirVenture (was:Does your airport WiFi?)

On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access at
Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on the
stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access point on
the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the advertising value?

Dave

In article 1114609193.690100@sj-nntpcache-3, Dave Butler wrote:
On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access at
Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on the
stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access point on
the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the advertising value?

[not a flame, just a gripe]

You kidding? EAA can't even provide sufficient handwash stations around
the field. You expect anything higher-tech? I'm convinced PP has
an under-the-table deal with the companies that make those
water-less cleaning gels and baby wipes.

[end gripe]

Blanche wrote:
In article 1114609193.690100@sj-nntpcache-3, Dave Butler wrote:

On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access at
Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on the
stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access point on
the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the advertising value?


[not a flame, just a gripe]

You kidding? EAA can't even provide sufficient handwash stations around
the field. You expect anything higher-tech? I'm convinced PP has
an under-the-table deal with the companies that make those
water-less cleaning gels and baby wipes.

[end gripe]

Heh. Right. Good point, Blanche. I should have known better. I still think there
might be value for someone with a display booth, though. They'd probably need a
satellite internet provider, like, say, DirecWay. I think it would attract a lot
of people to their booth.

The fastest connection you can get at AirVenture, because of its distance
from the nearest facility, appears to be ISDN. There's no DSL, that I know
of, or anything faster. ANN sets up WiFi but encrypted for use by the staff
and stringers. It would be ridiculously easy to slow down an ISDN to a crawl
if it was opened up. In order to handle the traffic for so many people at
the show EAA would probably have to temporarily setup multiple T-1's, and
that costs a lot of money for just one week of the show...

"Dave Butler" wrote in message
news:1114609193.690100@sj-nntpcache-3...

On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access
at Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very
nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on
the stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access
point on the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the
advertising value?

Dave

Dave Butler wrote:

Heh. Right. Good point, Blanche. I should have known better. I still
think there might be value for someone with a display booth, though.
They'd probably need a satellite internet provider, like, say, DirecWay.
I think it would attract a lot of people to their booth.

Reads like "Burning Man". Course that might fit in with Montblack's
'black'n everything'...

Juan Jimenez wrote:
The fastest connection you can get at AirVenture, because of its distance
from the nearest facility, appears to be ISDN.

I'm not sure there's no DSL, you could be right. DSL advertisers are notorious
liars. Also, there's satellite. If the bandwidth can't support the demand, the
number could be restricted to some arbitrary number of simultaneous users,
first-come first-served. Better than nothing.

There's no DSL, that I know
of, or anything faster. ANN sets up WiFi but encrypted for use by the staff
and stringers. It would be ridiculously easy to slow down an ISDN to a crawl
if it was opened up.

ISDN is not a practical solution.

In order to handle the traffic for so many people at
the show EAA would probably have to temporarily setup multiple T-1's, and
that costs a lot of money for just one week of the show...

I'd be willing to pay for access if there were an on-field provider. I suspect
I'm not alone.


"Dave Butler" wrote in message
news:1114609193.690100@sj-nntpcache-3...

On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access
at Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very
nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on
the stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access
point on the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the
advertising value?

Dave





--
Dave Butler, software engineer 919-392-4367

Juan Jimenez wrote:
The fastest connection you can get at AirVenture, because of its distance
from the nearest facility, appears to be ISDN. There's no DSL, that I know
of, or anything faster.

NorthNet http://www.ntd.net/internet.htm claims to offer DSL.

("Dave Butler" wrote)
I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on
the stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.


Found an open hot-spot last year, next to the N-40 showers (by the homes)
one night at around 9:30pm. Stylus and a handheld something - don't remember
the brand the guy had.

But yes, sounds too hit and miss for what you're after.


Montblack

Dave Butler wrote:

NorthNet http://www.ntd.net/internet.htm claims to offer DSL.

In nearly all of the U.S., the internet providers are running on lines that
they've taken over from the local Bell company. The lines are still provisioned
by the local baby Bell. If the local Bell says that they can't give you DSL at
your location, nobody else can either. That doesn't stop the internet service
companies from claiming they can. I think the baby Bell in that area is Ameritec?

Here, Earthlink was claiming that they could provide me DSL for two years before
my line could actually support it. Verizon had to condition the line for DSL
before anyone could provide service on it.

In order to handle DSL, the service address must be pretty close to the central
office (IIRC, 5,000'). The entire cable must also be free of load coils. Most
ISPs simply check the distance but have no way of knowing if coils are on the cable.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

I don't promise what I am not absolutely SURE of delivering, but it is these
little amenities that a friendly person on the EAA Board of Directors might
be able to bring to pass.

Just a thought, mindya.


Jim