"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

And CO2 is a by-product of a warming ocean. Please refute the following
point by point. :-)

http://www.john-daly.com/oceanco2/oceanco2.htm


What's to refute?

"The sensitivity calculation, however, may be very reliable. It shows that
natural temperature increase cannot be the whole reason for the increase of
atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration of about 80 ppm during this century.
But the question of the `Chicken and the Egg' *for the ice core measurements*
seems quite clear: First comes the warming, then comes the CO2. "

This is not news. What's your point?


--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

And CO2 is a by-product of a warming ocean. Please refute the following
point by point. :-)

http://www.john-daly.com/oceanco2/oceanco2.htm


What's to refute?

"The sensitivity calculation, however, may be very reliable. It shows that
natural temperature increase cannot be the whole reason for the increase
of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration of about 80 ppm during this
century. But the question of the `Chicken and the Egg' *for the ice core
measurements* seems quite clear: First comes the warming, then comes the
CO2. "

This is not news. What's your point?

It's not news? Algore is making millions spouting the opposite.
--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY

In article ,
"Roger (K8RI)" wrote:


Check BPS listings as those programs also show up there from time to
time.

thanks

Don't forget (if you watch off the air stations in the US) that analog
is going away Feb. 17, 2009. Coupons for Digital to analog converters
are available at https://www.dtv2009.gov/ApplyCoupon.aspx although the
boxes are not likely to be available before April of this year (and
the coupons are only good for 90 days)

yep - on it. I haven't decided exactly what to do yet... and of course
RCN isn't saying how much longer they will continue analog cable.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:44:41 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ,
"Roger (K8RI)" wrote:


Check BPS listings as those programs also show up there from time to
time.

thanks

Don't forget (if you watch off the air stations in the US) that analog
is going away Feb. 17, 2009. Coupons for Digital to analog converters
are available at https://www.dtv2009.gov/ApplyCoupon.aspx although the
boxes are not likely to be available before April of this year (and
the coupons are only good for 90 days)

yep - on it. I haven't decided exactly what to do yet... and of course
RCN isn't saying how much longer they will continue analog cable.

Depending on what you watch, the new HD sets have great pictures on
National Geographic, and other documentaries. Although not cheap, I
could purchase a 50" LCD for about what my folks paid for one of the
early color sets, and get a 40" (all we have room for) for one whale
of a lot less. The new ones have way higher definition than this 22"
wide screen monitor for my computer I purchased well less than a year
ago. Come to think of it, that old color console TV had a smaller
screen than this monitor too. And we thought it was big, which it was
back then. Course I had more hair, a LOT more hair back then too.
:-)) sigh

Roger (K8RI)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:26:35 -0600, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"Matt Whiting" wrote:

And CO2 is a by-product of a warming ocean. Please refute the following
point by point. :-)

http://www.john-daly.com/oceanco2/oceanco2.htm


What's to refute?

"The sensitivity calculation, however, may be very reliable. It shows that
natural temperature increase cannot be the whole reason for the increase of
atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration of about 80 ppm during this century.
But the question of the `Chicken and the Egg' *for the ice core measurements*
seems quite clear: First comes the warming, then comes the CO2. "

That has been historically true, but not this time. Now it's the CO2
leading the temp.

This is not news. What's your point?

Roger (K8RI)

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:02:31 -0500, "Roger (K8RI)"
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:48:01 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ,
"Roger (K8RI)" wrote:

Did the program indicate the cause the last warming? If so, what
was it?

As I recall it's still a mystery. It was nothing like what they were
expecting to find. Unfortunately some one pressed the erase button on
the DVR and I can't go back and look at it. It should be on again. It
was the National Geographic HD channel. Impressive in wide screen,
high definition. IIRC they had two, one hour programs back to back.

Thanks... I'm still on analog cable as I don't watch enough TV to
"justify" switching to HD or even digital.

Check BPS listings as those programs also show up there from time to
time.

Errrr...make that PBS, but I think you caught what I meant.

Roger

Don't forget (if you watch off the air stations in the US) that analog
is going away Feb. 17, 2009. Coupons for Digital to analog converters
are available at https://www.dtv2009.gov/ApplyCoupon.aspx although the
boxes are not likely to be available before April of this year (and
the coupons are only good for 90 days)

Roger (K8RI)

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:26:35 -0600, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"Matt Whiting" wrote:

And CO2 is a by-product of a warming ocean. Please refute the following
point by point. :-)

http://www.john-daly.com/oceanco2/oceanco2.htm


What's to refute?

"The sensitivity calculation, however, may be very reliable. It shows that
natural temperature increase cannot be the whole reason for the increase
of
atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration of about 80 ppm during this
century.
But the question of the `Chicken and the Egg' *for the ice core
measurements*
seems quite clear: First comes the warming, then comes the CO2. "

That has been historically true, but not this time. Now it's the CO2
leading the temp.

No, it's not - sorry. Try understanding CO2 forcing action.

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
:


"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:26:35 -0600, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"Matt Whiting" wrote:

And CO2 is a by-product of a warming ocean. Please refute the
following point by point. :-)

http://www.john-daly.com/oceanco2/oceanco2.htm


What's to refute?

"The sensitivity calculation, however, may be very reliable. It shows
that natural temperature increase cannot be the whole reason for the
increase of
atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration of about 80 ppm during this
century.
But the question of the `Chicken and the Egg' *for the ice core
measurements*
seems quite clear: First comes the warming, then comes the CO2. "

That has been historically true, but not this time. Now it's the CO2
leading the temp.

No, it's not - sorry. Try understanding CO2 forcing action.





A bit lke arguing how big the SPLAT is going to be as you're falling
through space, isn't it?

Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote
"dVaridel" wrote in
KIf they're not sicentists, then what's your beef?

No beef, just adding my 2c (US$0.0178).


The point I was trying to make a few posts back was that I like the
Scientist as an enquiring mind approach.

You are like a scinetist or you like the scientific aproach?

For the record I am like a salesman, however, I like the scientific
approach.


David

--
We had a quicksand box in our backyard. I was an only child, eventually.

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
:

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:26:35 -0600, "Dan Luke"
wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote:

And CO2 is a by-product of a warming ocean. Please refute the
following point by point. :-)

http://www.john-daly.com/oceanco2/oceanco2.htm

What's to refute?

"The sensitivity calculation, however, may be very reliable. It shows
that natural temperature increase cannot be the whole reason for the
increase of
atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration of about 80 ppm during this
century.
But the question of the `Chicken and the Egg' *for the ice core
measurements*
seems quite clear: First comes the warming, then comes the CO2. "
That has been historically true, but not this time. Now it's the CO2
leading the temp.
No, it's not - sorry. Try understanding CO2 forcing action.


A bit lke arguing how big the SPLAT is going to be as you're falling
through space, isn't it?

"I wonder if it will be friends with me?"