Alternative to Jeppesen binders?

In a previous article, Peter R. said:
MichaelR ) wrote:
Sporty's is now selling the entire set of FAA TPP's on a DVD for $9.95:
http://sportys.com/pilotshop/pages/chartviewer.cfm
Wow! Only $120 (US) for a year's worth of updates, versus Jeppesen's $772.

That's not *much* cheaper than Howie Keefe's Air Chart Systems. They
charge $200 for the whole country, but the problem is the damn updates - I
can never keep up with them and I keep losing the little cards. I love
their IFR chart atlas, though.


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"MichaelR" writes:

Sporty's is now selling the entire set of FAA TPP's on a DVD for $9.95:

Anyone know if this is just FAA data that's been repackaged or if it's
a proprietary derivative? I'm willing to buy Free data and make it
freely available.

--kyler

How long a x-country are we talking about? How many airports? I usually
end up with 15 or so pages for a flight.


"Peter R." wrote in message
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C J Campbell ) wrote:

You
can also save a ton of money just getting Jeppview on CD-ROM and
printing
out only those plates that you need on regular paper, punching your own
holes, and putting them in the Acco binder. This is probably a lot
cheaper
than using NOS charts, even.

CJ, I have been back and forth with the decision of using JeppView rather
than the standard Airway Manual and I honestly do not see the savings that
you claim.

For example, JeppView Northeast costs $290 for a one-year subscription,
whereas the Airway Manual Northeast cost $330. OK, so $40 dollars cheaper
for the CD version and the time savings of not having to file the paper
revisions every 14 days. So far, so good.

However, include the cost and time spent printing and hole punching,
keeping in mind that a proficient pilot would want to print approaches at
all airports along an x/c route in the event of an emergency, and the cost
and time savings seems to evaporate.

What am I missing that I do not see the "ton of money" savings?



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ost (Ditch) wrote in message ...
Are there any alternatives to the Jeppesen binders? Even their plastic ones are
kinda pricey. Thanks...

Yes... buy the NOS plates and charts.

Greg Esres wrote:

mostly of proprietary fonts that will not export to post script for
a PDF file.

I do it all the time. I imported a drawing into CorelDraw so that I
could duplicate a lot of the symbols in order to draw my own charts.
I think the font they use is Helvetica; Arial is a fairly close match,
and to the casual observer, my charts look just like theirs.

That is essentially a recreation, which is beyond what I suspect most
folks would want to do. If you print to a post script file then distill
to a PDF file, they look awful.

Kyler Laird wrote:

"MichaelR" writes:

Sporty's is now selling the entire set of FAA TPP's on a DVD for $9.95:

Anyone know if this is just FAA data that's been repackaged or if it's
a proprietary derivative? I'm willing to buy Free data and make it
freely available.

--kyler

Next month, if on schedule, NACO will be issuing all approach charts in PDF
vector graphics format.

In article , wrote:

Next month, if on schedule, NACO will be issuing all approach charts in PDF
vector graphics format.

Wow, that would be awesome. Where did you read that?

That is essentially a recreation, which is beyond what I suspect
most folks would want to do. If you print to a post script file then
distill to a PDF file, they look awful.

I think I wasn't clear.

I can create beautiful, flawless PDF files directly from JeppView
using either PDF Creator or Distiller.

There were some settings that had to be fiddled with, though I don't
remember exactly what they are now.

Greg Esres wrote:

That is essentially a recreation, which is beyond what I suspect
most folks would want to do. If you print to a post script file then
distill to a PDF file, they look awful.

I think I wasn't clear.

I can create beautiful, flawless PDF files directly from JeppView
using either PDF Creator or Distiller.

There were some settings that had to be fiddled with, though I don't
remember exactly what they are now.

I don't know how you could get that to work unless you cracked Jepp's 14
proprietary fonts and then pointed Distiller's job function to those
fonts. I know that will work.~

Roy Smith wrote:

In article , wrote:

Next month, if on schedule, NACO will be issuing all approach charts in PDF
vector graphics format.

Wow, that would be awesome. Where did you read that?

I didn't. They did a demo at last October's Aeronautical Charting Forum and
passed a few around. I do know they had over 70% of them converted to vector
graphics by then, but they don't plan to release them until it's 100%.

As you may know, some miliatry charts have been in that format for a couple of
years and available on NIMA's web site.