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Old June 21st 17, 03:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Echo
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Default Trig TT22 transponder issues

Yeah the L2 is well behind the control mixing in the mid aft fuselage. It's strange to me because if it were a fault with the antenna or other, my understanding is it should throw a fault code. When it is on (like after I restart it), Nashville approach picks me up fine. I can't get a hold of trig, every time I call I get error messages, so not sure how to call over there if my provider and wifi options aren't working.
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Old June 21st 17, 04:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Trig TT22 transponder issues

On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 8:34:46 AM UTC-4, Echo wrote:
I then realized that where the "ALT" is indicated on the lower right of the screen with the little airplane symbol was actually just 3 dashes instead..


This is confusing.

The dashes/airplane_icon are in the UPPER LEFT of the screen. My understanding is that the airplane_icon only flashes visible when the XPNR is replying to interrogations. The 'dashes' are displayed when it is NOT being interrogated. Do you think that the airplane_icon should be displayed all the time? Why do you think that the XPDR should constantly be replying to interrogations?
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Old June 25th 17, 12:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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*Sigh*

I know how transponders work. No you don't get constantly pinged. Yes the plane is supposed to flash as it's being tagged by radar. No that's not what I'm talking about.

I meant to say text on lower left. Do you want a photo? It displays text: SBY/GND/ON/ALT corresponding to switch position. Mine works for maybe 20 minutes, then displays dashes where the text was. Same issue with a different hesd unit and transponder in my plane today. Starting to think it's the wiring harness, more specifically the data line connecting the head unit on the panel and the box in the back. Running dual batteries, both lithium....power supply shouldn't be a factor. Antenna shouldn't make a difference to the display. Still troubleshooting. Next step is to try another harness, and check mine for breaks and bad solders.

Jordan
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Old June 25th 17, 04:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Trig TT22 transponder issues

When I first installed my TT22 about 3 or 4 years ago, I thought
everything was OK except that it failed the test. Closely monitoring
the display during startup revealed an error message displayed for such
a short time that I could not read it. I cycled the unit through
several power cycles reading the next word in the message each time and,
when I had the full message, I contacted Trig tech support. I believe
the engineer's name was Andy.

Andy told me that the message indicated a problem with the wire harness
so I took it apart (the end which I'd soldered on) and found one stray
strand of wire which was shorting two pins. I'm not saying this is your
problem, especially as you describe the temporal aspect of your
indications, but it certainly couldn't hurt to have a look inside the
connectors or even just ring out the harness with an ohm meter.

Good luck,
Dan

On 6/24/2017 5:10 PM, Echo wrote:
*Sigh*

I know how transponders work. No you don't get constantly pinged. Yes the plane is supposed to flash as it's being tagged by radar. No that's not what I'm talking about.

I meant to say text on lower left. Do you want a photo? It displays text: SBY/GND/ON/ALT corresponding to switch position. Mine works for maybe 20 minutes, then displays dashes where the text was. Same issue with a different hesd unit and transponder in my plane today. Starting to think it's the wiring harness, more specifically the data line connecting the head unit on the panel and the box in the back. Running dual batteries, both lithium...power supply shouldn't be a factor. Antenna shouldn't make a difference to the display. Still troubleshooting. Next step is to try another harness, and check mine for breaks and bad solders.

Jordan


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Old June 26th 17, 01:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Echo
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Default Trig TT22 transponder issues

Today I discovered jiggling the connection between the L2 antenna and coax cable caused the issue. Made a new cable, issue appears resolved. A bit surprised since it was a Goddard cable, but works now. (I think/hope)

Jordan
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Old June 26th 17, 05:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Darryl Ramm
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Default Trig TT22 transponder issues

On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 8:40:52 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
When I first installed my TT22 about 3 or 4 years ago, I thought
everything was OK except that it failed the test. Closely monitoring
the display during startup revealed an error message displayed for such
a short time that I could not read it. I cycled the unit through
several power cycles reading the next word in the message each time and,
when I had the full message, I contacted Trig tech support. I believe
the engineer's name was Andy.

Andy told me that the message indicated a problem with the wire harness
so I took it apart (the end which I'd soldered on) and found one stray
strand of wire which was shorting two pins. I'm not saying this is your
problem, especially as you describe the temporal aspect of your
indications, but it certainly couldn't hurt to have a look inside the
connectors or even just ring out the harness with an ohm meter.

Good luck,
Dan

On 6/24/2017 5:10 PM, Echo wrote:
*Sigh*

I know how transponders work. No you don't get constantly pinged. Yes the plane is supposed to flash as it's being tagged by radar. No that's not what I'm talking about.

I meant to say text on lower left. Do you want a photo? It displays text: SBY/GND/ON/ALT corresponding to switch position. Mine works for maybe 20 minutes, then displays dashes where the text was. Same issue with a different hesd unit and transponder in my plane today. Starting to think it's the wiring harness, more specifically the data line connecting the head unit on the panel and the box in the back. Running dual batteries, both lithium...power supply shouldn't be a factor. Antenna shouldn't make a difference to the display. Still troubleshooting. Next step is to try another harness, and check mine for breaks and bad solders.

Jordan


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Dan, 5J


The Andy you spoke with may have been the CEO and founder Andy Davis. :-)
  #17  
Old June 26th 17, 02:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default Trig TT22 transponder issues

Now THAT's what I would call service! :-D

On 6/25/2017 10:54 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Sunday, June 25, 2017 at 8:40:52 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
When I first installed my TT22 about 3 or 4 years ago, I thought
everything was OK except that it failed the test. Closely monitoring
the display during startup revealed an error message displayed for such
a short time that I could not read it. I cycled the unit through
several power cycles reading the next word in the message each time and,
when I had the full message, I contacted Trig tech support. I believe
the engineer's name was Andy.

Andy told me that the message indicated a problem with the wire harness
so I took it apart (the end which I'd soldered on) and found one stray
strand of wire which was shorting two pins. I'm not saying this is your
problem, especially as you describe the temporal aspect of your
indications, but it certainly couldn't hurt to have a look inside the
connectors or even just ring out the harness with an ohm meter.

Good luck,
Dan

On 6/24/2017 5:10 PM, Echo wrote:
*Sigh*

I know how transponders work. No you don't get constantly pinged. Yes the plane is supposed to flash as it's being tagged by radar. No that's not what I'm talking about.

I meant to say text on lower left. Do you want a photo? It displays text: SBY/GND/ON/ALT corresponding to switch position. Mine works for maybe 20 minutes, then displays dashes where the text was. Same issue with a different hesd unit and transponder in my plane today. Starting to think it's the wiring harness, more specifically the data line connecting the head unit on the panel and the box in the back. Running dual batteries, both lithium...power supply shouldn't be a factor. Antenna shouldn't make a difference to the display. Still troubleshooting. Next step is to try another harness, and check mine for breaks and bad solders.

Jordan

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Dan, 5J

The Andy you spoke with may have been the CEO and founder Andy Davis. :-)


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