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How to Groundloop your Taildragger
This link will be of interest to taildragger pilots
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private wrote:
This link will be of interest to taildragger pilots Thanks, but I already know how to do that. :-) George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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Been there, done that, too ...
Does that go with the tail-wheel endorsement? "George Patterson" wrote in message news:u2hse.13932$ej1.7167@trndny09... private wrote: This link will be of interest to taildragger pilots Thanks, but I already know how to do that. :-) George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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John Larson wrote:
Does that go with the tail-wheel endorsement? Don't think so -- I had lots of oral instruction, but my CFI didn't demonstrate. He left it up to me to practice the maneuver for real. :-) George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:39:06 GMT, George Patterson
wrote: private wrote: This link will be of interest to taildragger pilots Thanks, but I already know how to do that. :-) Another war story: In Italy I read a story about a B-17 that landed on a short muddy runway. It had no way to stop as the mud prevented any braking action whatsoever, the brakes simply locked up and skidded the tires as if on ice. As the end of the runway approached, the pilot, in desperation, slammed on full right rudder while advancing the power to the no. 1 and 2 engines at the same time. The bomber spun around in it's tracks. As the tail spun the the front, the pilot pulled the power on the 1 and 2 engines and went to full power on 3 and 4. Then he pushed 1 and 2 back up to full power as the rotation stopped and the airplane was aligned with the runway, but now facing in the opposite direction. Full power on all four engines for a few seconds produced enough thrust to bring the slide to a stop, whereupon the pilot chopped power to all the engines. The pilot was enormously relieved that he'd avoided a catastrophic crash off the end of the runway, and gave credit to god for the amazingly dexterous handling of the four engined bomber. I felt that the pilot was giving himself short shrift, I think it was his own training and smarts that saved the bomber, himself and his crew. After all, god didn't teach him to fly. Corky Scott |
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Corky Scott wrote:
Another war story: Yet another; in England this time. A B-17 pilot landed successfully but didn't get it stopped until after the last turnoff. Rather than wait for a tug, he locked the left brake and ran the left outer engine up to full power. That pulled the left wingtip around, shoving the right wing backwards. Then he idled the left outer, locked the right brake, and ran the right outer up to full power. He kept this up until he had backed the plane up past the turnoff and got off the runway. He said the mechanics hated it when pilots did this, since it didn't take long to ruin the engines, but he got unofficial kudos from the base commander for freeing up the runway rapidly. George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:14:20 GMT, George Patterson
wrote: He said the mechanics hated it when pilots did this, since it didn't take long to ruin the engines, but he got unofficial kudos from the base commander for freeing up the runway rapidly. I've heard of this technique of backing up, and I can imagine that it must have required a lot of power from the outer engine to get the entire mass of the airplane to swing. So I can see where it would burn out the engine in a hurry. Corky Scott |
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"Corky Scott" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:39:06 GMT, George Patterson wrote: private wrote: This link will be of interest to taildragger pilots Thanks, but I already know how to do that. :-) Another war story: In Italy I read a story about a B-17 that landed on a short muddy runway. It had no way to stop as the mud prevented any braking action whatsoever, the brakes simply locked up and skidded the tires as if on ice. As the end of the runway approached, the pilot, in desperation, slammed on full right rudder while advancing the power to the no. 1 and 2 engines at the same time. The bomber spun around in it's tracks. As the tail spun the the front, the pilot pulled the power on the 1 and 2 engines and went to full power on 3 and 4. Then he pushed 1 and 2 back up to full power as the rotation stopped and the airplane was aligned with the runway, but now facing in the opposite direction. Full power on all four engines for a few seconds produced enough thrust to bring the slide to a stop, whereupon the pilot chopped power to all the engines. The pilot was enormously relieved that he'd avoided a catastrophic crash off the end of the runway, and gave credit to god for the amazingly dexterous handling of the four engined bomber. I felt that the pilot was giving himself short shrift, I think it was his own training and smarts that saved the bomber, himself and his crew. After all, god didn't teach him to fly. Corky Scott Intentional ground loops have saved many a taildragger. At slow speed and under control they at times serve a useful purpose. |
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I've heard of taildraggers being parked in their tiedowns by being
taxied in backward. The pilot gets a bit of speed, aims at the tiedown, intentionally groundloops it, stopping the swing with opposite brake as it lines up and the momentum originally built up drags the airplane into the tiedown spot. I don't have the nerve to try it. Dan |
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