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In article , "G.R. Patterson III"
writes: Gig Giacona wrote: And with the advances in science I wouldn't bet the farm that there will never be another marketable Cuban mahogany tree IF there is sufficient demand. No way. They only grow to marketable size and quality when surrounded by other trees at least 60 feet tall. In other words, you would have to restore most of the Cuban rainforests to restore the mahoganies. About 500 years *after* you restore those forests, you can harvest your first Cuban mahogany. OK, the market will not provide real Cuban mahogany in our lifetimes, but if the demand is there, it will provide some other material that will fill that niche, in all but some very small esthetic differences. Same is true for the ancient cypress lumber harvested in Louisiana. And lots of other things that can only grow to maturity in a stone age economy. The real questin is "Would you prefer the economic and technological realities that existed before the Cuban Mahogany was harvested over he world today?" Don -- Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS PP-ASEL Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG |
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" I call it as I see it. I don't care HOW many brainless knee-jerk Democrat voter-drones live in the highest-population-density-inner-city cesspools -- this geographic map of the election results tells the tale: http://mwhodges.home.att.net/usmap-large.gif Jay, I am genuinely interested, what data on this map supports your assertion? - Carl - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.550 / Virus Database: 342 - Release Date: 12/9/2003 |
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"Carl Ellis" wrote in message
... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:ja2Cb.310866$Dw6.1046389@attbi_s02... C'mon, the USA Today election map at http://mwhodges.home.att.net/usmap-large.gif clearly shows that the country OVERWHELMINGLY supported Bush. .... I am genuinely interested, what data on this map supports your assertion? Jay has apparently managed to convince himself that the extent of a candidate's mandate is better measured by the number of *acres* that voted for the candidate than by the number of *people* that voted for the candidate. When he stays the "country" overwhelmingly supported Bush, he's referring to the country's landmass rather than its population. --Gary |
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When he stays the "country" overwhelmingly supported Bush, he's
er, "stays" should be "says" |
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:23:28 GMT, Gary L. Drescher wrote:
Jay has apparently managed to convince himself that the extent of a candidate's mandate is better measured by the number of *acres* that voted for the candidate than by the number of *people* that voted for the candidate. When he stays the "country" overwhelmingly supported Bush, he's referring to the country's landmass rather than its population. "$%&$§!!!! couldn't be brought down to 4 lines ... would be a great signature :-) --Gary #m -- http://www.declareyourself.com/fyr_candidates.php http://www.subterrane.com/bush.shtml |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:20:22 -0600 "Gig Giacona" wrote:
"R. Hubbell" wrote in message news:GZ9Cb.177$pY.171@fed1read04... Check out the Toyota Prius. They're selling like hotcakes even with high tariffs. GIG Wrote That is what an free market does. Left alone a free market will cause all materials to be used for the most efficient use. Dream on. Your argument proves my point. If it becomes important enough the market will deal with the problem. In this case the Toyota Prius. But I'd be willing to bet they are not out selling SUVs. Now I've got you! Mooohahaha. SUVs have been selling like hot cakes because of at least two loopholes in the laws. One is how they are classified and the other is a huge tax-break for businesses that buy them (a weight thing) The "market" you lovingly cling to is once again artificially buoyed up because it's rivets are popping and it's long in the tooth and creaking and it's past TBO and it's ready to rest in Davey Jones' locker and it's ready to go Tango Uniform and .... Now the Prius has huge tariffs imposed by the US govt. and their are no loopholes. (although I think in some states the state subsidizes a portion of the cost, sort of like undoing the federally imposed tariffs) |
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Wdtabor wrote: OK, the market will not provide real Cuban mahogany in our lifetimes, but if the demand is there, it will provide some other material that will fill that niche, in all but some very small esthetic differences. Right. It's nonsense to say that the market will provide if the demand is there. What the market does is to manipulate the demand. The market says "You don't *really* want *that*. Here's what you *really* want." As far as a material that comes close to Cuban mahogany "in all but some very small esthetic differences", you're dreaming. There's nothing on Earth that's close. I expect there will be about the time someone discovers the philosopher's stone. George Patterson Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is "Hummmmm... That's interesting...." |
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In article , "G.R. Patterson III"
writes: Wdtabor wrote: OK, the market will not provide real Cuban mahogany in our lifetimes, but if the demand is there, it will provide some other material that will fill that niche, in all but some very small esthetic differences. Right. It's nonsense to say that the market will provide if the demand is there. What the market does is to manipulate the demand. The market says "You don't *really* want *that*. Here's what you *really* want." Actually, what it says is that if you *really* want that, it will cost you $$$$$. But if that is too much, we can provide this instead at $$$. As far as a material that comes close to Cuban mahogany "in all but some very small esthetic differences", you're dreaming. There's nothing on Earth that's close. I expect there will be about the time someone discovers the philosopher's stone. I have life a long and happy life without knowingly owning anything made of Cuban Mahogany, though I have some items made of other nice woods. There may be some things about the CM that are in some small way superior, but nothing I cannot pass up out of respect for the owner's of those forrests rights to use their resources as they see fit. No doubt there are some Cubans who could think of better uses for the resources consumed to make your Maule. We don't let them deny you that choice either. That mutual respect for each other's freedom is more precious than the difference in the woods. Don -- Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS PP-ASEL Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG |
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In article jWHCb.382382$ao4.1274100@attbi_s51, "Gary L. Drescher"
writes: Jay has apparently managed to convince himself that the extent of a candidate's mandate is better measured by the number of *acres* that voted for the candidate than by the number of *people* that voted for the candidate. When he stays the "country" overwhelmingly supported Bush, he's referring to the country's landmass rather than its population. Actually, Jay's map does tell us a great deal about the vote. Those areas that produce more than they consume and pay more in taxes than they receive in federal funds voted for Bush and those that suck at the Federal teat voted for Gore. Big surprise. Don -- Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS PP-ASEL Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG |
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