Who de-activated ground-air missiles on 9-11?

In message , Laura Bush
murdered her boy friend writes
The Pentagon is protected by a computerized system. When a plane
enters the pentagon protected space the computer automatically sends a
message to the plane demanding the pilot punch in a code allowing it
to enter the space. If that is not done within seconds, the plane is
automatically shot down with missiles

Actually, if the aircraft doesn't identify itself, it's snatched away by
tractor beams from Planet Zort.


Out of interest, where would these supposed missiles be fired from? And
where are their fire-control radars?

I greatly enjoyed a stay in the Doubletree Arlington a few years ago,
and my tenth-floor window looked out with a marvellous panorama across
DC: the Pentagon on the left, National / Reagan on the right, the
National Mall in the middle, and not a SAM radar nor launcher to be seen
in between.

So where would these mystery missiles be fired from? (And where would
the wreckage of their kills land?)

(I know, I know, no fair getting into a battle of wits with the
unarmed...)
--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

In article ,
"Matti Partonen" writes:

"james" wrote in message
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In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

Inflammatory "name" tends to discredit you before the first word of your
message.

The Pentagon is protected by a computerized system.

Is it?

When a plane
enters the pentagon protected space the computer automatically sends a
message to the plane demanding the pilot punch in a code allowing it
to enter the space.

If you say so. What is your source for this information?

If that is not done within seconds, the plane is
automatically shot down with missiles

Right.

Now you might say the hijackers knew about this and demanded the pilot
of Flight 77 give them the code.

Maybe they would, if it were true.

But surely he would have given them
the wrong code and there would be no time to retrun to the pilot and
beat the correct code out of him.

You've drawn an unsupportable conclusion from a weak premise.

Either the missile system was de-activated that day or someone gave
the hijackers the code before-hand.

Either... or... or maybe your entire argument is flawed?

How do you know about this automatic Pentagon missile system?

Surely all these issues have been addressed by the investigators of 9/11,
and can be read from their final report.
Anybody seen that report? In the net? I certainly would like to see it, the
"official" official story.

Yes, one would expect Pentagon to be one of the best protected targets in
the whole US. But US military history does not necessarily bear this out.
For some interesting reading, you might wish to peek at the following links,
and look for "C3 legacy". Here is one quote:

--- begin quote
MIT had recommended that the SAGE computer facilities be located remotely,
away from both cities and military bases, so that they would not be bonus
targets in the event of an attack. When the Air Defense Command was
called upon to select SAGE sites, however, they realized that their people
would not enjoy being assigned to the boondocks, so they decided to put
the SAGE centers at military bases instead.

Following up on that choice, the Air Defense Command looked for military
bases with the best facilities, especially good O-clubs. Sure enough, SAC
had the best facilities around, so they put many of the SAGE sites on SAC
bases. Given that SAC bases would be prime targets in any manned bomber
attack, the SAGE centers thus became bonus targets that would be destroyed
without extra effort. Thus the peacetime lifestyle interests of the
military were put ahead of their defense responsibilities.
--- end quote

http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/9.60.html
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/9.65.html
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/9.67.html
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/9.74.html
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/9.80.html
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/9.97.html

You've never been to Minot, or Grand Forks, or Loring AFBs, have you?
(My Wife was born in Caribou. That'll show you the lengths that people
will go to to escape that region )

Or, for that matter, from back in hte Olde Days, Sidi Slimane, Ernest
Harmon, Thule, Narssessauq, or 1950s Dharan.

One thing that was realized fairly early on wrt SAGE Center siting was
that if the bombs are actually falling, they've pretty much become
irrelevant. What was more important was the ability to track incoming
Soviet Bombers hours before they reached any worthwhile
target. (Contiguous Radar Coverage in the 1950s started at the
Mid-Canada Line (Roughly at the latitude of teh Southern edge of
Hudson's Bay (And therefore, covering the Southern half of Canada
(Saved changing the name). Bombers with the performance of the Bison
and Bear would then be tracked for up to 2 hours before reaching the
population centers of either Canada or the U.S. I wouldn't have
wanted to be a Soviet Long Range Aviation crewman, that's for certain.

The construction of the DEW Line, Mid-Canada Line, and Pine Tree Line
has to rank as one of the greatest Engineering Achievments of modern
times. There are few spots on the globe as remote or difficult to
build and work in.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

The Pentagon is protected by a computerized system. When a plane
enters the pentagon protected space the computer automatically sends a
message to the plane demanding the pilot punch in a code allowing it
to enter the space.

On what planet do they also have a building called the Pentagon? Or is this
still earth just in a different dimension?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Matti Partonen wrote:

Yes, one would expect Pentagon to be one of the best protected targets in
the whole US

It was protected as well as anyones office or home (excluding the White House),
by two large oceans.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Either the missile system was de-activated that day or someone gave
the hijackers the code before-hand.

or you are an idiot

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message
...

The Pentagon is protected by a computerized system. When a plane
enters the pentagon protected space the computer automatically sends a
message to the plane demanding the pilot punch in a code allowing it
to enter the space. If that is not done within seconds, the plane is
automatically shot down with missiles


What would the pilot punch the code into?



Now you might say the hijackers knew about this and demanded
the pilot of Flight 77 give them the code. But surely he would
have given them the wrong code and there would be no time to
retrun to the pilot and beat the correct code out of him.


Why would the pilot have the code? Do all pilots have this code?

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message
...

Thank you for the namecalling. Now why don't you address the issue?


What issue?

"z" wrote in message ...




"Daniel" wrote in message
...

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 May 2004 12:08:47 -0700, "lysdexic"
wrote:

This is bull. I haven't been on this board for long but suspected you
had
no
credibility. Either you are ignorant enough to believe stuff like
this
and
regurgitate it or you made it up. Either way you are not credible.



Thank you for the namecalling. Now why don't you address the issue?

how do you expect anyone to address the issue when you cannot even
address
his question as to whether or not you made it up?



Refute or go back to your schoolwork.

You want refutation? OK, how's about the *fact* that the US dismantled its
last fixed SAM systems guarding the continental US back in the 1970's? "With
the exception of batteries in Alaska and Florida that stayed active until
the late 1970s, by 1975 all Nike Hercules sites had been deactivated."
(source: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/ai...e-hercules.htm )

After 9-11 the US Army deployed Avenger and (IIRC) Patriot units into the
D.C. area to protect high-value targets, but before 9-11 the only SAM
umbrella in the entire area would have been the RIM-92 Stinger MANPADS that
the Secret Service allegedly (not verified AFAIK) had on-hand to protect the
White House from close-in airborne threats.

What unit operated these mythical SAM's that were supposed to be protecting
the Pentagon, and what kind of system has this mysterious key that was
allegedly missing? Hint--none. Why? Because it is all a figment of the
imagination of a somewhat warped poster who needs to replenish his tinfoil
supply, 'cause those mind-rays are apparently affecting him...

Brooks

"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message
...
In message , Laura Bush
murdered her boy friend writes
The Pentagon is protected by a computerized system. When a plane
enters the pentagon protected space the computer automatically sends a
message to the plane demanding the pilot punch in a code allowing it
to enter the space. If that is not done within seconds, the plane is
automatically shot down with missiles

Actually, if the aircraft doesn't identify itself, it's snatched away by
tractor beams from Planet Zort.


Out of interest, where would these supposed missiles be fired from? And
where are their fire-control radars?

I greatly enjoyed a stay in the Doubletree Arlington a few years ago,
and my tenth-floor window looked out with a marvellous panorama across
DC: the Pentagon on the left, National / Reagan on the right, the
National Mall in the middle, and not a SAM radar nor launcher to be seen
in between.

So where would these mystery missiles be fired from? (And where would
the wreckage of their kills land?)

Hey, Paul, years ago they used to let us go up to the top of
the Washington Monument. I have several photos that I took
from those little windows. Could it be that they don't let visitors
climb to the top anymore because they would see the missles?


(I know, I know, no fair getting into a battle of wits with the
unarmed...)


Oh, but it's so much fun! :-)

JK

Daniel wrote:

"z" wrote in message ...




"Daniel" wrote in message
...

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 May 2004 12:08:47 -0700, "lysdexic"
wrote:

This is bull. I haven't been on this board for long but suspected you
had
no
credibility. Either you are ignorant enough to believe stuff like
this
and
regurgitate it or you made it up. Either way you are not credible.



Thank you for the namecalling. Now why don't you address the issue?

how do you expect anyone to address the issue when you cannot even
address
his question as to whether or not you made it up?



Refute or go back to your schoolwork.



ok, i hereby declare you refuted. have a nice day.

Then you lose.

Have a nice day, loser.


--
Gee willikers, it must be obvious day at Camp Stupid. ($1 to Master Shake)

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