70 kg 31:1 glider is here to stay?

wrote:
One guy buys a PW5. Another guy buys a Libelle or Std Cirrus, flys
circles around the PW5, and has $10K or so left over to spend on booze
or hookers or whatever. Who has got more enjoyment for his money?

Tell me who the pilots are and I'll ask them, then report to you. I
can't possibly guess, and neither can you.

If they land with smiles on their faces, I'm happy!
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 23:00:39 GMT, "Pete Reinhart"
wrote:
.. Most one design
classes ultimately end up something like the 1-26 class just to get the
participation.

Seems to be effective. Maybe there's a point there that everyone is
missing, like "fun"?

To me this plane is fascinating. I'm amazed by the stall speed of 20 mph. It
sounds like it would be a great idea for soaring around very scenic areas,
where you don't want to rush around all of the time. As well, it would be
comforting to know that if an emergency landing was needed in an
un-inhabitable area, that the crash could be at very slow speed. If it's
durable, easy to assemble/disassemble, and reasonably priced I believe this
would make and excellent club ship.
"Andre Volant" wrote in message
om...
For soaring, this is it.
New racing class?
Why fly fast when you can fly slower.
What's a rush anyway?
Race slower, cover less ground, easier retrieve.
Stalls at 31.4 km/h

http://www.revilo-france.fr/avgauchesthil2.jpg
http://www.revilo-france.fr/3vues.jpg

Empty weight env. 70 Kg
Span 15 meters
Lenght 5,35 meters
Aspect ratio 21,3
Area 10,56 m2
Glide ratio 31 at 54 Km/h
Stall 31,4 Km/h
Minimum sink rate 0,42 m/s at 40 Km/h
VNE 140 Km/h

Andre




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Charles Yeates wrote:
Depends on pocketbook, eh? Some can afford a PW-5 and some ASH25M
Enjoyment of each can be equal.


Charles:

This is exactly the case.

I have always thought that the huge increment in the
enjoyment of my life come from when I have wings.

The step I take I go from -0- wings to 20/1 wings is an
infinitely bigger leap than when I go from 20/1 to 40/1.

I look forward to the day when I can introduce my non-winged
friends to flying in a PW-6 or any other aircraft. The
magic occurs when we leave the ground and inhabit the sky.

Pete

Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to
return." -- Leonardo da Vinci.

Peter D. Brown
http://home.gci.net/~pdb/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/akmtnsoaring/

Another interesting one:
http://www.aeros.com.ua/products/sailplane/index.htm

Avron Tal

Stewart Kissel wrote in message ...
Gee...that sure explains how a 1-26 won the OLC...with
a lot of very long flights.




At 23:06 19 November 2004, wrote:
One guy buys a PW5. Another guy buys a Libelle or
Std Cirrus, flys
circles around the PW5, and has $10K or so left over
to spend on booze
or hookers or whatever. Who has got more enjoyment
for his money?



Might have something to do with the pilot?

Avron Tal wrote:
Another interesting one:
http://www.aeros.com.ua/products/sailplane/index.htm

Looks like fun, but the fact that the best glide occurs at about the
stall speed of my Mosquito suggests that penetration ability will be
limited. Also, given that it takes me twice as long to rig as anybody
else, an advertised rig time of 40 minutes is a big negative.
As a step up from hang gliding or over from 1-26s, it looks good.
Does SH know about this?
http://www.aeros.com.ua/products/hg/discus.htm

Shawn

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Dans l'article , Charles
Yeates a écrit :


Depends on pocketbook, eh? Some can afford a PW-5 and some ASH25M
Enjoyment of each can be equal.


And others like mysef and many members of my club can't afford anything,
or wouldn't have any money for paying for launches after buying a PW-5,
but our club can afford 4 LS4, 2 Pégases, 1 ASW24, 2 Discus, 2 LS6 (17.5
& 18m), so why would we even consider buying a PW-5?

Somehow, drifting around in a speed-challenged sailplane so I can
crash into trees slowly doesn't have quite so much appeal as flying
quickly cross-country and landing at an airfield!

Robert Ehrlich wrote:

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Dans l'article , Charles
Yeates a écrit :



Depends on pocketbook, eh? Some can afford a PW-5 and some ASH25M
Enjoyment of each can be equal.



And others like mysef and many members of my club can't afford anything,
or wouldn't have any money for paying for launches after buying a PW-5,
but our club can afford 4 LS4, 2 Pégases, 1 ASW24, 2 Discus, 2 LS6 (17.5
& 18m), so why would we even consider buying a PW-5?

To compete in the World Class competitions?

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