Your free AvGas fillup at Dodge Center MN (TOB) July Sunday 31, AM

Hi,

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me
continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about
$50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that
accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see
corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card
charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660

"abripl" wrote in message
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Hi,

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me
continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about
$50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that
accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see
corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card
charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660

Thanks for the gas! ;-) About 50 gallons? Not in my plane...

Seriously, do you think you have ANY chance of finding the person(s) that
filled up after you on these newsgroups? I hope you're lucky and find out
who it is and get the $150 credit back. Did you notice anyone else around
TOB after you filled up?

Good luck!

-Greg B.

How did you find out about this if you just got home? I'd think you
would need to get your statement before discovering the error . . .

www.Rosspilot.com

wrote in message
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How did you find out about this if you just got home? I'd think you
would need to get your statement before discovering the error . . .

There are any number of ways a person could learn of an unexpected charge on
their credit card prior to a statement being mailed to them. Online
statements, credit card company calling to follow-up, checking one's balance
by phone, etc.

I think it's highly unlikely the original poster will ever see that $150
again. Unless he happens to find just the right forum, AND the person who
filled up recognized they did so on someone else's card, AND that person
actually feels like paying up.

I think the first criteria is unlikely, the second HIGHLY likely, and the
third unlikely. I'm not aware of any single forum that any very large
proportion of the pilot population reads. Even AOPA Pilot is read by only
roughly half the pilots in the US.

The second criteria seems very likely to me. The self-serve pumps have an
involved process to pay for and pump gas. Anyone pumping gas on someone
else's card would simply skip all that, and would certainly notice doing so.

The third criteria seems especially unlikely. After all, someone dishonest
enough to notice that they are pumping gas on someone else's card, but not
go ahead and cancel out the transaction and start their own, that kind of
person isn't going to pay up later. They're just a jerk, and are probably
laughing about how they screwed someone else over.

All of the above is conjecture, of course. But I think it's more likely
than not to be reasonably accurate conjecture.

Pete

What???
No video cam recording activity at the pump?

Greg,

Call your CC company and tell them what happened. They "might" credit
you for this mistake. It's worth a try.

BJ

n93332 wrote:

"abripl" wrote in message
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Hi,

Just returned from Oshkosh home to Pierre SD. I filled up at Dodge
Center MN this AM and not being familiar with the self serve gas
fillup, I did not hang up the pump handle properly. Somebody after me
continued pumping another $150 on my credit card ($200 instead of about
$50). My experimental only holds 35 gal bone dry. If it was you that
accidentally filled up that morning after me and don't see
corresponding "HARTLAND FUEL PRODUCTS - DODGE CENTER" credit card
charges on your card please contact me. Paul at 605-224-0660



Thanks for the gas! ;-) About 50 gallons? Not in my plane...

Seriously, do you think you have ANY chance of finding the person(s) that
filled up after you on these newsgroups? I hope you're lucky and find out
who it is and get the $150 credit back. Did you notice anyone else around
TOB after you filled up?

Good luck!

-Greg B.

It only takes one time to learn . I would contact the credit card
company and see what they can do. If they consider it an "authorized
charge" then you'll get your credit. Not sure how they will look at it
though.

-Robert

FWIW - On most "do it yourself" gas pumps at the airfields I have flown
into asks a series of questions with the first being "have you ground
your aircraft," Followed usually by N number then amount to be debited
to card. I usually enter an amount that is roughly $10 to $20 over
what I think I need (adjusting of course for price flucuations). Once
this is done the most I could lose would be $10 or $20 bucks. the pump
will automatically shut off at the higher limit.
What was the upper limit you expected to reach?

" wrote:

How did you find out about this if you just got home? I'd think you
would need to get your statement before discovering the error . . .

What, are you stuck in the 1980s or something? Today most credit card
companies and even credit unions offer online account access via the
Internet. Some companies, such as MBNA, even show authorizations
before they post as charges, which usually takes 1-3 days. If I charge
something now, in less than 10 seconds from now I can see the
authorization online. No need to wait around for a statement to wonder
in via the mailman. Of course all authorizations may not post for
various reasons or the amount authorized might vary from what eventually
posts. Hotels usually authorize a big number upon check in. Sometimes
(auto) gas stations authorize $1, sometimes a larger number like $50.

Speaking of which, to the OP: is it possible that the charge you are
seeing is just an authorization and not a charge? The self-pump might
have authorized an arbitrary large number to make sure your credit card
was good for it before it let you pump anything. When the charge posts
(in 1-3 days) it will show the actual amount being charged. Self-help
pumps usually time out pretty quickly.

.... the pump will automatically shut off at the higher limit (entered)

Thats interesting. Just prior to that I filled up at a pump with an
upper limit (I entered 20 gallons and it filled with 10 gallons). But
this one did not ask anything...
Today was my first time I used self serve...

The reason I posted was just in case.... There are some honest
people.....