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Old November 30th 07, 01:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike Martin
LS3-A
N339P
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Old November 30th 07, 03:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I have sold several of both types, as long as you are getting the most
recent revisions on either brand they are quite equal . Neither has been
completely without issues but both are quite good and suitable for glider
use. Select good encoder types, professional installation and you will be
OK. Both are also in stock here and can be shipped immediately. Prices of
these transponders are today are very similar.
Also look at the TPAS (MRXA) systems, these are not transponders but detect
transponder signals from nearby aircraft giving you a warring of potential
incursions.. http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page4.htm ..IMHO a better
solution to glider operators than transponders or transponders alone and
very inexpensive and quite literally no installation since they are
completely portable....these are also available from stock.
tim
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I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike Martin
LS3-A
N339P



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Old November 30th 07, 04:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default which transponder

On Nov 30, 8:35 am, "Tim Mara" wrote:
I have sold several of both types, as long as you are getting the most
recent revisions on either brand they are quite equal . Neither has been
completely without issues but both are quite good and suitable for glider
use. Select good encoder types, professional installation and you will be
OK. Both are also in stock here and can be shipped immediately. Prices of
these transponders are today are very similar.
Also look at the TPAS (MRXA) systems, these are not transponders but detect
transponder signals from nearby aircraft giving you a warring of potential
incursions.. http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page4.htm..IMHO a better
solution to glider operators than transponders or transponders alone and
very inexpensive and quite literally no installation since they are
completely portable....these are also available from stock.
tim
Please visit the Wings & Wheels website atwww.wingsandwheels.com

wrote in message

...

I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike Martin
LS3-A
N339P


I bought a scratch and dent Microair from W&W a couple of years ago
(although I could never figure out what was cosmetically wrong with
it) and it has performed flawlessly. Tucson Gliding Club has
Microairs in most of the club ships and as far as I am aware these are
all performing fine.

I am planning to follow Tim's advice and add a warning device this
year. My transponder seems to deflect larger aircraft under air
traffic control (I've seen airliners and military aircraft take
sometimes quite strong evasive action away from me), but there are a
lot of ******s out there flying SEL and some twins who never seem to
look out of the window. When I can make out individual rivets, I know
I am too close!

Mike
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Old November 30th 07, 06:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Nov 30, 5:11 am, wrote:
I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike Martin
LS3-A
N339P


Buy the Becker. Without a doubt much better quality all round.
Microair may well have fixed all their past problems with their
products, but they've had to many issues to ever get my money for any
product. My experience was with MicroAir VHF radios, but their
Transponders don't actually have a great reputation either.

Darryl
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Old November 30th 07, 06:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Buy the Microair. My experience with Becker radios has not been good.
Had to send one to Florida to get fixed two years ago and it cost more
than half what a brand new one would have. I appealed the size of the
repair bill (they replaced one small circuit board) and their reply
was the same one I got from the hospital that upcoded my stitches --
"that's too bad".

-ted/2NO
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Old November 30th 07, 07:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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)
and Ditto:
as I said in my previous post, neither Becker or Microair has been better
than the other....both are in fact quite good......but transponders by
nature are going to likely have more issues than normal communications
radios.
tim
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On Nov 30, 5:11 am, wrote:
I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike Martin
LS3-A
N339P


Buy the Becker. Without a doubt much better quality all round.
Microair may well have fixed all their past problems with their
products, but they've had to many issues to ever get my money for any
product. My experience was with MicroAir VHF radios, but their
Transponders don't actually have a great reputation either.

Darryl



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Old November 30th 07, 07:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tim Mara
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Default which transponder

)
and Ditto:
as I said in my previous post, neither Microair or Becker has been better
than the other....both are in fact quite good......but transponders by
nature are going to likely have more issues than normal communications
radios.
tim
Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at www.wingsandwheels.com

"Tuno" wrote in message
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Buy the Microair. My experience with Becker radios has not been good.
Had to send one to Florida to get fixed two years ago and it cost more
than half what a brand new one would have. I appealed the size of the
repair bill (they replaced one small circuit board) and their reply
was the same one I got from the hospital that upcoded my stitches --
"that's too bad".

-ted/2NO



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Old December 1st 07, 05:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default which transponder

On Nov 30, 8:11 am, wrote:
I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike Martin
LS3-A
N339P


Anybody have any luck with the new Becker mode S ?
I've had one on back-order for 1.5 years...

One of my buddies tried the new Garrecht unit,
it was DOA (though alledgedly working when the
plane was shipped to him). Took forever to get
repaired, seems OK now. Any other feedback
on the Garrecht unit ?

Thanks in advance !
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Old December 1st 07, 07:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default which transponder

On Dec 1, 9:58 am, wrote:
On Nov 30, 8:11 am, wrote:

I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike Martin
LS3-A
N339P


Anybody have any luck with the new Becker mode S ?
I've had one on back-order for 1.5 years...

One of my buddies tried the new Garrecht unit,
it was DOA (though alledgedly working when the
plane was shipped to him). Took forever to get
repaired, seems OK now. Any other feedback
on the Garrecht unit ?

Thanks in advance !


I don't believe the Garrecht is yet certified in the US.

I have had some problems with the MicroAir T2000 installations, not
with the T2000 but with AmerKing encoder.
Apparently AmerKing powder coated their case and this removed a common
ground.

I think the demand in Europe is so large, that Becker and Garrecht are
concentrating on that market.

I sell both the Becker and the Microair.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com
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Old December 5th 07, 10:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default which transponder

On Dec 1, 12:32 pm, Richard wrote:
On Dec 1, 9:58 am, wrote:



On Nov 30, 8:11 am, wrote:


I've researched the sight for as much info as I can gather for
transponders. The choice now is, which transponder to buy. The
Becker or the Microair? Is one really better than the other? There
is not a real difference in the price point. Is there enough
differencer betwwen warranty, service and reliabilty to choose one
over the other? Your experinces and inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Mike Martin
LS3-A
N339P


Anybody have any luck with the new Becker mode S ?
I've had one on back-order for 1.5 years...


One of my buddies tried the new Garrecht unit,
it was DOA (though alledgedly working when the
plane was shipped to him). Took forever to get
repaired, seems OK now. Any other feedback
on the Garrecht unit ?


Thanks in advance !


I don't believe the Garrecht is yet certified in the US.

I have had some problems with the MicroAir T2000 installations, not
with the T2000 but with AmerKing encoder.
Apparently AmerKing powder coated their case and this removed a common
ground.

I think the demand in Europe is so large, that Becker and Garrecht are
concentrating on that market.

I sell both the Becker and the Microair.

Richardwww.craggyaero.com




I installed a Becker last winter and it has performed flawlessly. I
felt that everything about the unit was first rate. Our club (Soaring
Society of Boulder) has had problems with Becker radios like mentioned
by Tuno but their XPDR has been great.

I do biz with most of the soaring equipment dealers and have had good
experiences with them all. That said, Cumulus Soaring supplied my
Becker unit, encoder and cables and did an exceptional job of
assisting me in the installation. Further, make sure you read Eric
Greenwell's articles about XPDR's before venturing forward.

Bob Caldwell
 




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