Why did this helicopter crash ?

"helicopterandy" wrote in message
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How long have you been studying helicopters? Five minutes? Saying as
you did above that "lowering the collective wouldn't do anything for
the tail rotor action" speaks volumes of your obvious lack of even the
basics of flying helis.

Oh yeah? Well explain to me how lowering the collective without reducing
power would affect the effect (action) of the tail and improve matters
in
the scenrio. If anything, lowering collective would result in a reduced
load
on the rotor system and an INCREASE in rotor speed and a corresponding
increase in tail rotor speed, which as you'll recal is no longer
controllable, so the net result would be in increase in yaw rate.
Lowering
collective alone would NOT do anything for the uncontrolled yaw which
our
intrepid pilot was encountering.

BEAVIS,

Is there REALLY any need to shout?

YOUR ABOVE POST IS SO WRONG AND MISGUIDED THAT I WON'T BOTHER
RESPONDING TO YOU ANY FURTHER AFTER THIS ONE.

Your choice.

BUT DO YOURSELF ONE
FAVOR BEFORE YOU AGAIN MAKE AN IDIOT OUT OF YOURSELF HE
ASK ANY HELICOPTER PILOT WHO FLYS A SHIP THAT HAS A COUNTER-CLOCKWISE
ROTATION MAIN ROTOR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LOWER COLLECTIVE? HINT: YOU
GET A NICE YAW TO THE LEFT SINCE YOU ARE TAKING TORQUE/POWER OUT OF
THE SYSTEM

Yes, pretty obvious.

AND SO YOU NEED TO APPLY RIGHT PEDAL.

Yes.... and your point is?

THAT RIGHT PEDAL
TAKES THE PITCH/THRUST OUT OF THE TAIL ROTOR.


The pilot in the original scenario already had the tail rotor thrust taken
out by the failure. He could've pedaled from now 'til eternity and nothing
would change.

WHEN YOU LOWER COLLECTIVE YOU ARE REDUCING POWER,

You are if you also either roll off throttle or the governor does it for
you. Otherwise.....

MORON.

Oh dear... name calling at this early stage? Makes you look somewhat
immature don't you think?

STOP THINKING
THAT POWER IS ONLY REDUCED BY REDUCING ROTOR SPEED.

I don't remember mentioning rotor speed, in fact I know I didn't, so if
you're going to argue, a least argue with something I said... Power is
reduced by reducing power.

GO STUDY JUST A
BIT.
ONE MORE THING, THE FIRST THING MOST PILOT OPERATING HANDBOOKS STATE
IS THAT IN THE EVENT OF LOSS OF TAIL ROTOR EFFECTIVENESS IN FLIGHT THE
FIRST THING THE PILOT SHOULD DO IS LOWER COLLECTIVE.


Is that "MOST" or "ALL"?

YOU ARE TRYING TO ARGUE ALGEBRA WITH A MATH PRO WHEN YOU OBVIOUSLY
DON'T KNOW WHAT 2 PLUS 2 EQUALS.
GO BACK TO YOUR TOYS.

Oh, now I'm hurt bady.

REGARDS,
MARK
PS
HOW MANY PIC HOURS DO YOU HAVE IN HELICOPERS? I'D GUESS ZERO. NO WAIT,
I'D GUARANTEE THAT YOU HAVE ZERO. He he

Do you think I actually CARE what you "guarantee"?


--
Beav


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