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Old November 22nd 06, 09:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.simulators
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Someone know where can i find a good guide for ILS approaching in FS?
(EXCEPT FOR FS guide)

Thanks
Syu.

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Old November 26th 06, 07:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.simulators
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On 22 Nov 2006 12:13:19 -0800, "Syucomm" wrote:

Someone know where can i find a good guide for ILS approaching in FS?
(EXCEPT FOR FS guide)

Thanks
Syu.


How much information do you require?
See:
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/a...ying_handbook/
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Old November 27th 06, 10:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.simulators
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Default ILS approaching help

Look he
http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/index.htm
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Old November 27th 06, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.simulators
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Syucomm writes:

Someone know where can i find a good guide for ILS approaching in FS?
(EXCEPT FOR FS guide)


What do you need to know?

Are you flying the approach by hand, or using the autopilot to bring
you in?

Essentially it's a matter of tuning the correct ILS frequency for your
runway, getting close enough to the right path so that your equipment
can detect the ILS signals, and then using instruments to align your
aircraft for landing in response to the signals. If you are using
autopilot, you only need to get in roughly close to the proper path,
and then the autopilot will take over. Except in large aircraft with
full autoland capability, you'll have to fly the last few hundred feet
yourself (and make sure you turn off the autopilot when you are ready
to take over!).

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Old November 27th 06, 08:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.simulators
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Get a copy of the correct approach plate for the correct airport and
correct runway and print it out. If it's a FS mission, you can print
the plate out from the briefing area if they show one. Otherwise you
can get them free on the web at:
http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_tpp

At the top of this chart (plate) note the ILS localizer frequency and
set it into your #1 Nav spot. This is the "localizer" frequency and
starts with the letter i in the identifier shown, like I-ORD for
Chicago ILS 14right runway.

Look at the lower part of the chart showing the profile. An ILS has a
sloping glide path to the airport. At the top of the path
approximately 4 to 5 miles from the airport, shows an initial altitude
to intercept. (some man not have this level section) You need to get
your aircraft at this altitude and be about 6 to 8 miles from the
airport pointed toward the airport at the final course angle as noted
on this chart. If it's an ILS 23, you'll be headed on a course of 230
degrees. That course should take you to the runway. You basically
keep the two crosshairs centered on the Nav1 display. If you do it
will take you right down to the touchdown zone of the airport.

I would recommend also loading this approach in the GPS, then it will
draw a line and you can see the point roughly 5 miles from the airport
where you need to intercept both the glide slope and the localizer.
The localizer will show as the vertical needle on the Nav1 and the
glideslope is either a horizontal needle or and little star that moves
up and down, center being the position you want to hold as you descend
down the glide slope.

Lastly, you could set the frequency in on the ground and take off
flying the approach backward trying to keep the two needles centered.
At 6 or 7 miles out, save the flight, then practice turning around and
flying it back in. The map mode in FS can also show you where you are
on the approach path. ... aKiley

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Old November 27th 06, 08:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.simulators
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Default ILS approaching help

akiley writes:

The map mode in FS can also show you where you are
on the approach path.


Also, if you click on the airport on the map, you can pick up all the
ILS frequencies for the various runways.

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Old November 29th 06, 01:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.simulators
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Default ILS approaching help

Syucomm wrote:
Someone know where can i find a good guide for ILS approaching in FS?
(EXCEPT FOR FS guide)


My experience with FS goes back to FS5. Though the graphics were limited
and the controls very sloppy, it gave a good workout providing you
already know ILS procedures (I've had my instrument ticket since 1966).

When I got FS going about 10 years ago, it was useful in maintaining my
capability to intercept and track down to touchdown OK.

I have not used it much in the last 5 years because of computer changes,
etc.

I downloaded the FAA' IFM.. Looks like it's been prettied up and
updated, but the GPS section sure leaves everything to be desired. It
merely states the gospel according to the FAA, with good definition of
terms, but you are really on your own as to how to interpret this to
operating specific GPS's. With VOR, it was a no-brainer to switch from
one manufacturer to another. But GPS is hopeless in that regard. Each
mfr. hs his own method of implementing all the necessities. The only
commonality is that they all use English is writing their manuals and
labeling their machines (at least in the US).

Back to ILS approaches..

In the FAA IFM, useful (for FS management) ILS info is available on
pages 7-27 (grand plan view),
8-15 (approach plate dissected)
8-14 (arrival ant-dance)
more plates; 10-16, 10-15.

Read the verbiage before and after those pages.

read up on joining airways and on entering holding patterns so that you
keep things organized in your head.

Angelo Campanella

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Old December 9th 06, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.simulators
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Default ILS approaching help

akiley wrote:
you can see the point roughly 5 miles from the airport
where you need to intercept both the glide slope and the localizer.


Normal procedure IRL is to intercept the localizer long before you
intercept the GS. You should be ON the localizer and BELOW the GS when
GS intercept occurs.
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Old December 13th 06, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.simulators
Craig Keating
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Default ILS approaching help

http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/

This site will teach you everything you need to know.

On Nov 22, 3:13 pm, "Syucomm" wrote:
Someone know where can i find a good guide for ILS approaching in FS?
(EXCEPT FOR FS guide)

Thanks
Syu.


 




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