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Brooks,
Here is a link to my original source: http://members.aol.com/dwidad/pattonped.html And another one from the Patton society http://www.pattonhq.com/pattontree.html They both show the General patton of WWII fame as being the III. h "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "cypher745" wrote in message . com... Ancestry of George S. Patton snip incorrect garbage Brooks, please note the the use of III. Have a good day. Check your sources, pal. Your batting average today ain't too hot, is it? Brooks |
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Eleanor Clift has done a pre-emptive strike on the Republicans:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4114162/ It's not a very good one, and ignores the wider "problems" with Kerry as this thread points out. It's not simply VVAW. |
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"cypher745" wrote: "S. Sampson" wrote in message news:OnASb.13425$Q_4.11977@okepread03... In May 1972, the Boston Phoenix reported that Kerry had defiantly given his medals back to the U.S. government during one of his many protests. New York Times columnist Bill Keller wrote in September 2002 that the senator invited him to view 40 minutes of films Kerry made depicting his war exploits. Keller wrote that anti-war doves would still support the man they remembered for "throwing his war ribbons onto the steps of the Capitol." When pressed about what happened to his medals, Kerry now says the medals he threw away were not his and that his are displayed in his Senate office. Retired General George S. Patton III would later angrily charge that Kerry's actions had "given aid and comfort to the enemy." Supremely arrogant and demonstrably contemptuous of the voting public, Kerry nevertheless regularly touts his military experience during his presidential run. But he forfeited the right to do that 30 years ago. Come to think of it, if he continues to posture as a war hero, he'll lose the friendship of Ramsey Clark, Angela Davis, and the Daily World. Didn't Patton die in 1945?? George S. Patton, Jr. did, yes. Making all of this a little suspect. Why? Patton had a son named George S. (Who took command of the 2nd Armored Division in 1974.) |
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"cypher745" wrote: | George Smith Patton, Jr. 1856-1927 | George Smith Patton III [U.S. Army General] -1945 Brooks, please note the the use of III. Your elaborate family tree appears to need some editing: From the beginning of http://www.generalpatton.com/biography.html "BIOGRAPHY OF GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON, JR. One of the most complicated military men of all time, General George Smith Patton, Jr. was born November 11, 1885 in San Gabriel, California." Have a good day. Heh. |
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For a full description of LBJ's Silver Star Mission see "Means of Assent" by
Robert A Caro. The Silver Star Johnson got was a gift from Douglas MacArthur and was most assuredly not deserved. (Johnson was a congressman from Texas at the time). Jack "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... On 30 Jan 2004 22:40:41 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote: Subject: General Patton on Lieutenant Kerry From: "S. Sampson" Date: 1/30/04 1:53 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: OnASb.13425$Q_4.11977@okepread03 When pressed about what happened to his medals, Kerry now says the medals he threw away were not his and that his are displayed in his Senate office. Retired General George S. Patton III would later angrily charge that Kerry's actions had "given aid and comfort to the enemy." Supremely arrogant and demonstrably contemptuous of the voting public, Kerry nevertheless regularly touts his military experience during his presidential run. But he forfeited the right to do that 30 years ago. And just what were your war exploits? Anything? What he did in combat no one denies. And he is a hero and a fine soldier and leader of men as a result. And where do you stand in terms of military acheivement against Lt. Kerry?. Arthur Kramer Well, Art, I think my military achievements qualify me to speak, and I agree fully with General Patton's estimation of the honor and integrity of Senator Kerry. The simple hypocrisy of the medal throwing incident, using someone else's medals, followed by the prominent display of the awards in his office for political expediency reduces the man in my mind. And, I might add that several hundred military aviators from the period that I regularly correspond with in an email listserv, AF, Navy, Marine and Army, are united in their disdain for the Senator. The former POWs in the group in particular are bothered by the acts of Senator Kerry. As for the possession of the awards in the first place, we might wish to recall that LBJ had a Silver Star as well, although his was won for being a passenger on a mission in the combat zone, not necessarily a combat mission. And Lt. Kerry's three Purple Hearts, it has been reported in a number of sources recently resulted in no missed duty days--it's a puzzlement. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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"cypher745" wrote in message . com... Brooks, Here is a link to my original source: http://members.aol.com/dwidad/pattonped.html And another one from the Patton society http://www.pattonhq.com/pattontree.html They both show the General patton of WWII fame as being the III. They are wrong. Again, check your sources. Just because some yahoo has incorrect information and posts it on a webpage does not make it right. "Brassey's Encyclopedia of Military History and Biography", pp. 762-765 has the correct idenitification as "Jr". The freaking US Army lists him as "Jr" (www.knox.army.mil/center/g3/museum/gspatton.htm ). Then there is: Ayer, Frederick. BEFORE THE COLORS FADE. PORTRAIT OF A SOLDIER: GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON, JR. With a foreword by Omar N. Bradley. Boston: Houghton-Mifflin, 1964. 266 p. 940.54092 Aye. Unless you think Omar Bradley did not know who he was? You, and your sources, are wrong...get it? Brooks |
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Brooks,
I think that we are both right. He may have gone by Jr, but have been the third George Patton, or have gone by Jr, and really have been the II. If you look at the family tree from the Patton Society, you will notice that his father's birth name was George William Patton. He later changed it to George Smith Patton. The key Question here is when did he change his name? If he changed it before the birth of our WWII hero, then his name is George S Patton III. If he changed it afterwards, then his name is George S Patton II with his grandfather being the first. Technically this means, that the only way he could be a Jr. was if he was indeed the III. Since, if his father's middle name was William at the time of his birth he would not really be a Jr. You need to look no further than our President and his dad to see that this is indeed the case. Main Entry: 2junior Function: noun Etymology: Latin, n. & adjective 1 a (1) : a person who is younger than another a man six years my junior (2) : a male child : SON As such the term Jr. would not apply between a grandfather and a grandson. If you look at the source "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "cypher745" wrote in message . com... Brooks, Here is a link to my original source: http://members.aol.com/dwidad/pattonped.html And another one from the Patton society http://www.pattonhq.com/pattontree.html They both show the General patton of WWII fame as being the III. They are wrong. Again, check your sources. Just because some yahoo has incorrect information and posts it on a webpage does not make it right. "Brassey's Encyclopedia of Military History and Biography", pp. 762-765 has the correct idenitification as "Jr". The freaking US Army lists him as "Jr" (www.knox.army.mil/center/g3/museum/gspatton.htm ). Then there is: Ayer, Frederick. BEFORE THE COLORS FADE. PORTRAIT OF A SOLDIER: GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON, JR. With a foreword by Omar N. Bradley. Boston: Houghton-Mifflin, 1964. 266 p. 940.54092 Aye. Unless you think Omar Bradley did not know who he was? You, and your sources, are wrong...get it? Brooks |
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"cypher745" wrote in message . com... Main Entry: 2junior Function: noun Etymology: Latin, n. & adjective 1 a (1) : a person who is younger than another a man six years my junior (2) : a male child : SON As such the term Jr. would not apply between a grandfather and a grandson. Sure it could, common usage. |
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"S. Sampson" wrote in
news:OGDSb.13437$Q_4.13216@okepread03: [snip] Eleanor Clift has done a pre-emptive strike on the Republicans: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4114162/ Eleanor Clift.... Oh ahm a shakin' in mah boots..... __________________________________________________ _____________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source |
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