U.S. is losing the sympathy of the world

Alan Lothian wrote:

In article , John
Mullen wrote:

Richard Bernstein, NYT
Reprinted in the International Herald Tribune.

U.S. is losing the sympathy of the world

snip of loads of stuff distributed around the Net in gross breach of
copyright

On this point I have to disagree. It is clealry being distributed for the
purpose of comment and reaction, which is classic "Fair use" under the
copyright law.

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Vince

"John Mullen" wrote:
"Gene Storey" wrote:
"John Mullen" wrote:

U.S. is losing the sympathy of the world

We don't need sympathy, we need a sense
of honor in fighting a common enemy.

Agreed. I would contend though that the means chosen to fight world
terrorism by the US in recent years have not been terribly effective.

Militarily I'd say the U.S. has been *extremely* effective, but from a
public relations standpoint I'd have to agree with you.

But it's kinda' tough to fight world terrorism when, for example,
almost 70-percent of our so-called Canadian "friends" believe
that the U.S. is partly responsible for the 9/11 attacks and
15-percent of Canadians believe that the U.S. is entirely to blame.

Then there's our other so-called European "friends" whom are
card-carrying members of the flat-earth society and whom have
convinced themselves that the U.S. rigged the WTC towers and
Pentagon with explosives just so the U.S. could start a war in the
desert and take over the oil fields etc. ad nauseum.

As the World's Only Superpower, I suppose that is to be expected
but rather than the U.S. worrying about losing the sympathy of
the world, perhaps the world should start worrying about losing the
sympathy of the U.S.!!

-Mike (if ya' can't run with the Big Dogs...) Marron

This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.


Maybe a bit less of Fox News biased propaganda and a bit more listening of
the worldwide opinion would help the USA in dealing with foreign countries.
You're so self-centered and buried in your own pro-US propaganda that you
have no real contact with the rest of the world, so how can you pretent to
bring peace and stability (with weapons!!!) throughout the world without
knowing it, and without wanting to know it.
It's not american people fault, it's all propaganda and biased information,
of the same kind germans invented at national socialism time and which is
still used at each crisis (please, I'm not saying US people are Nazis!).
It's the same kind of propaganda that was used by soviets and of course by
extreme islamists.
You should know, especially you in this "military" forum, that at war time,
misinformation and propaganda play a major role. So, do you really swallow
every word, all the bull****, that your puppet of president Bush says?!

The tv news we have in Europe are not the same as US ones, we have another
point of view of the world from where things don't look the same. So in
example it's better to put US and European news in the balance to get an
opinion that should me more correct. You should do the same in the US,
before things to get worse. This article isn't bull**** (at least you think
the others opinion always is bull****...) and you should have the
intelligence to pick some good points in it.

Not being single minded and keeping a critical spirit is a good thing,
whatever the situation is...

Yours, John

In article ,
"John Mullen" wrote:

Agreed. I would contend though that the means chosen to fight world
terrorism by the US in recent years have not been terribly effective.

Let's see...

Two years ago, we almost 3000 people in one terrorist attack.

Last year, we lost a fraction of that.

This year, we lost even less.

In the meantime, we've killed or captured hundreds of terrorists, while
removing from power two different governments that supported terrorists.

What *is* your definition of "effective?"

--


Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

In article , John Doe
wrote:

This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.


Maybe a bit less of Fox News biased propaganda and a bit more listening of
the worldwide opinion would help the USA in dealing with foreign countries.
You're so self-centered and buried in your own pro-US propaganda


What's this "you" jazz, Doe boy? What makes you think I am American?
Must be my .sig, with a quote from a very great Muslim scholar and a
human-readable dot uk address, I suppose.

snippaggio

So, do you really swallow
every word, all the bull****, that your puppet of president Bush says?!

Not my puppet.

The tv news we have in Europe are not the same as US ones, we have another
point of view of the world from where things don't look the same.

Some of us in Europe can construct English sentences, too. Pas
seulement en anglais: est-ce que tu me conseilles de lire les avis du
Monde de Paris, par example, ou peut-etre The Guardian te suffit?


So in
example it's better to put US and European news in the balance

"Europe's in the balance; neither side prevails.
There's nothing left in either of the scales."
-- Alexander Pope.

--
"The past resembles the future as water resembles water" Ibn Khaldun

My .mac.com address is a spam sink.
If you wish to email me, try alan dot lothian at blueyonder dot co dot uk

In article , John
Mullen wrote:

"Alan Lothian" wrote in message
...
In article , John
Mullen wrote:

The sympathy of the world (whatever the hell "world" means in that
context) plus two euros will buy you a cup of coffee in some capital
cities.

??? Don't get your drift at all.

Then there's no point in my trying to explain it.

--
"The past resembles the future as water resembles water" Ibn Khaldun

My .mac.com address is a spam sink.
If you wish to email me, try alan dot lothian at blueyonder dot co dot uk

"John Doe" wrote in message
...
This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.


Maybe a bit less of Fox News biased propaganda and a bit more listening of
the worldwide opinion would help the USA in dealing with foreign
countries.
You're so self-centered and buried in your own pro-US propaganda that you
have no real contact with the rest of the world, so how can you pretent to
bring peace and stability (with weapons!!!) throughout the world without
knowing it, and without wanting to know it.


Ahem the chap you are replying to isn't an American
I suggest that you actually READ the post before
engaging in any more wit and wisdom.

Keith

This post should not be understood as implying support for any US
policy, past, present or future, but merely as a small contribution to
the War against Bull****, which is both more pressing and more
important than the War against Terrorism.

I don't entirely agree with your closing idea, but thank you for the
fight that led you to it.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
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It's not american people fault, it's all propaganda and biased information,
of the same kind germans invented at national socialism time

Kill-file!

Probably should program the old kill-file to incorporate anyone who
styles himself "John Doe" with my intervention...


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

what are we fighting for i dont give a damn cause george bush sent us to
die in vietnam

Isn't that amazing? A product of which demented school system? He
can't spell, can't punctuate, and thinks George Bush was prezdint
during the Vietnam War!

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com