Airplane tears off winglet on jet bridge

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One would expect the ground crew to be French nationals, but perhaps
trained to Turkish standards. Are people who hand direct airplanes or
use tugs certified in any way? I have not seen anything 'official'
regarding the causes of this accident, but it has certainly exposed
bigotry and bias on the news group, hasn't it?



The worst tragedy in Turkish airline history happened in France, due to a
known defect in a US-manufactured aircraft (DC-10 cargo door)improperly
repaired by a UK maintenance firm, known to, but possibly incompletely
understood, and in any case incorrectly checked by a French worker of
Algerian origin, in absence of the French Service Manager (on French
vacation). Dirty Turks!

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The worst tragedy in Turkish airline history happened in France, due to a
known defect in a US-manufactured aircraft (DC-10 cargo door)improperly
repaired by a UK maintenance firm, known to, but possibly incompletely
understood, and in any case incorrectly checked by a French worker of
Algerian origin, in absence of the French Service Manager (on French
vacation). Dirty Turks!

Now I know why I'm heavily prejudiced against every single
group on that list !!! (exceprt the Turks, that is)

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Grand Mal writes:

Turks are Europeans but Turkey isn't part of Europe.
If it was the fault of the pilot, what if he turns out to be an
Englishman?

He's still working for a Turkish airline, and the problem is in the
management
of the airline and the culture of aviation, not in individual pilots. An
incompetent airline could hire incompetent English pilots just as easily
as it
could hire incompetent Turkish pilots.

The culture of aviation? An incompetent English pilot would be a symptom of
Turkish incompetence?
You ought to sit down and shut up, son. You don't have the tools to bull****
yourself out of the position you've backed into.


Or American? And how poor does a safety record need to be before a French
airport won't allow you to use their facility?

I believe French airports largely go with the European Union, which has
banned
quite a number of airlines, including most African airlines and some
airlines
in Asia.

Grand Mal writes:

The culture of aviation?

Yes. Different countries have demonstrably different attitudes towards
aviation safety, with some being far more cavalier about it than others. Some
place longstanding cultural standards of interaction among persons of
different rank above safety in priority; CRM tends to be difficult to improve
in such cultures.

An incompetent English pilot would be a symptom of Turkish incompetence?

Multiple incompetent pilots are a sure sign of a problem with the airline or
(if it affects multiple airlines) with the culture in which the airline
operates.

We're still waiting for you to justify some of your statements.
Your cultural and racial prejudices do not convince us there is any truth in
your assertions. On the contrary, for many of us they weaken your arguments.




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Grand Mal writes:

The culture of aviation?

Yes. Different countries have demonstrably different attitudes towards
aviation safety, with some being far more cavalier about it than others. Some
place longstanding cultural standards of interaction among persons of
different rank above safety in priority; CRM tends to be difficult to improve
in such cultures.

An incompetent English pilot would be a symptom of Turkish incompetence?

Multiple incompetent pilots are a sure sign of a problem with the airline or
(if it affects multiple airlines) with the culture in which the airline
operates.

VOR-DME writes:

We're still waiting for you to justify some of your statements.
Your cultural and racial prejudices do not convince us there is any truth in
your assertions. On the contrary, for many of us they weaken your arguments.

Allowing political correctness to compromise safety puts many lives at risk.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
VOR-DME writes:

We're still waiting for you to justify some of your statements.
Your cultural and racial prejudices do not convince us there is any truth in
your assertions. On the contrary, for many of us they weaken your arguments.

Allowing political correctness to compromise safety puts many lives at risk.

Meaningless happy talk babble.


--
Jim Pennino

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Allowing political correctness to compromise safety puts many lives at risk.

Allowing pejudices to cloud one's thinking is characteristic of feeble
mindedness, and can put the world at risk.

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Allowing political correctness to compromise safety puts many lives at
risk.

Allowing pejudices to cloud one's thinking is characteristic of feeble
mindedness, and can put the world at risk.

"Can" might, just possibly, be an ever-so-slight understatement.

On Jul 13, 8:56*am, "Peter Dohm" wrote:
"VOR-DME" wrote in message

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Allowing political correctness to compromise safety puts many lives at
risk.

Allowing pejudices to cloud one's thinking is characteristic of feeble
mindedness, and can put the world at risk.

"Can" might, just possibly, be an ever-so-slight understatement.

In the present case, the poster whose biases are being displayed is
known to be without much authority: if bigots must exist let them be
among those who are incapable of of acting on their biases, or
influencing others to do so.