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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
"Deaf2u" wrote in message ... I just want to know why he doesn't fly it, or at least watch it fly. I have nothing against the guy, I don't know him and I'm not going to judge by who he calls a friend. It just seems that he's put in a lot of effort here, I'd want to see it fly. I think he is probably scared of it. I would be. And I have to disagree with you. Who one chooses as friends is an excellent judge of one's character. It bay even be the best way. |
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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
"Deaf2u" wrote in message ... Well once again, disregarding the apparently intense battle\hatred DABEAR has for Juan I still find it curious. He's owned this plane, taken pride and made some fairly loud noises about owning it. He has a website about it and has been all about this plane for a while and yet has no desire to see it fulfill it's mission. I have no interest in it, I'm more interested in slow planes with floats but I am curious. I agree. After years of association with EAA folks, I find this a very uncommon attitude in a home builder. Never seen anyone like him. Richard's warnings are probably the root cause. And, as Richard so succinctly said: "This makes Juan's airplane lighter than all other BD-5Js and won him recognition as having the lightest non-flying, non-running BD-5J in the world to be recognized by a beer company. I guess when you look at the record in a category/class kind of way, maybe he does hold it. A flying airplane, weighed with a pilot and fuel, would probably be in a completely differant class. Al G |
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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
"Richard Riley" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 15:36:10 -0800, "Al G" wrote: "Anthony W" wrote in message news:7FEih.6931$Pq4.4740@trndny08... Al G wrote: "jc" wrote in message ... Al G wrote: snip 358 lbs. Pretty Good. Is that "ready to fly"? I.E. a Basic Operating Weight? Can anybody compete for a Guiness World Record "Lightest Jet"? What are the rules? Obviously it need not be an actual flying airplane... CriCri beats that easily IIRC the twin piston version is ~180lb empty and ~375lb MTOW. The twin jet version would be similar with the same airframe. http://www.amtjets.com/gallery_real_plain.html -- regards jc LEGAL - I don't believe what I wrote and neither should you. Sobriety and/or sanity of the author is not guaranteed EMAIL - and are not valid email addresses. news2x at perentie is valid for a while. A couple of hundred pounds lighter, and actually flown, many times, successfully. http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/..._aircraft.aspx Too bad there is no way to notify Guiness, online. The only contact I could find was snail mail. Al G I'll donate 4 bits for a stamp... Tony Oh Jeez, and I'm already laying low from Zoom's threats/attention. Now I should attack Jaun's "Record". I'm a little surprised even Guinness would accept, for a record, an airplane that had never flown. Besides, Zoom has flown over twice as many aircraft types as the current Guinness holder. Obviously they are not up to date. We talked about this here back when the Yawner got his "record." It's not for the *lightest* jet, it's for the *smallest* jet. IIRC, the CriCri was lighter, but was a little bigger in wingspan or length. oh. damn, I missed that. I sit corrected. Al G |
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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
Isn't Juan's buddy Zoom a test pilot?
Maybe he could do the flight test program for Juan? |
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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
Montblack wrote:
("Richard Riley" wrote) We talked about this here back when the Yawner got his "record." It's not for the *lightest* jet, it's for the *smallest* jet. IIRC, the CriCri was lighter, but was a little bigger in wingspan or length. Of course, and airplane doesn't have to actually fly to be an airplane. I'm told there's a broom and a carpet on the FAA registry. The Cri-Cri is about 10 inches longer. The Cri-Cri weighs half as much. The Cri-Cri's wingspan is shorter by about a foot. (16' vs. 17') The Cri-Cri (jet) flies, has flown, will fly, did fly... http://home.regent.edu/ruthven/bd-5.html BD-5 http://www.amtjets.com/gallery_real_plain.html Cri-Cri (jet) http://www.flight.cz/cricri/english/ GREAT Cri-Cri site. Check out the (new) NZ video. Montblack Cri-Cri fan What is it about the design that makes it so unsafe? It looks a bit short coupled, but that's the only thing that jumps out at me. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
"Al G" wrote in message ... I guess when you look at the record in a category/class kind of way, maybe he does hold it. A flying airplane, weighed with a pilot and fuel, would probably be in a completely differant class. If the plane never leaves the ground it isn't an airplane as far as I'm concerned. Think how easy it would be to just put together some cardboard and a light jet engine and call it the lightest jet airplane. |
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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
"john smith" wrote in message ... Isn't Juan's buddy Zoom a test pilot? Maybe he could do the flight test program for Juan? Even Zooooom isn't that stupid. |
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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message ... And I have to disagree with you. Who one chooses as friends is an excellent judge of one's character. It bay even be the best way. I'm sure it is, and if a persons associates are dubious it leaves one one cautious about him. But I've always been willing to guage people as I find them, not nescessarily on what I've heard. Not really the topic I had in mind though. |
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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"john smith" wrote in message ... Isn't Juan's buddy Zoom a test pilot? Maybe he could do the flight test program for Juan? Even Zooooom isn't that stupid. No, but he is crazy. Maybe someone needs to put him on the spot to prove how big and brave he really is You know "put up or shut up." Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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Hmmm a BD5J with zero hours FS
I think to qualify for a Guinnes record you have to actually apply. In any
case I'd likely give it to the Cri-Cri on the basis of non-flight, but here is a yet smaller craft. Perhaps it is too small to qualify as an aircraft, I'd give him any record he wants, this guy truly is the real thing. http://www.jet-man.com/actuel_eng.html |
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