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John Keeney wrote: wrote: WaltBJ wrote: Sure you can land a C5 in Central Park. Actually, the word is more properly 'crash-land'. Everybody is going to die and the airplane burn to ashes but hey - it's Hollywood! Hell, you can land a C5 on a carrier - if you can swim really well. I think the word I'm looking for is "Schlockmeister". Sheesh. Wayne, go watch the Israeli movie 'Entebbe' and see what can realistically be done. Walt BJ SNIP Well to be fair, and to get a word in edge-wise before he gets the thorough caning he so rightly deserves, the C-5 was designed to operate from short, rough fields. Of course, in the case of of the Galaxy, "short" and "rough" are relative. So far as I know, no one has ever attempted "for real" to use the C-5 as an assault transport....memories of that wheel bounding down the runway sans aircraft after a demonstration of this "capability" before a Congressional delegation and a national TV and press pool are still too vivid in the USAF even after 40 years or so You sure that wasn't a proper (aka "paved") runway? SNIP Might have been...memories get misty...let me check....although if it was, that made things even worse - "if it does THAT on a proper runway, what the %#2& will happen on a tactical strip or a stretch of autobahn?" Found this..looks like you're right...thanks for the correction! "Rolled out at Lockheed's Marietta plant on the 2nd of March 1968, the first C-5 (66-8303) of an intial order of five, was prepared for initial trails at Dobbins AFB. The 94-minute maiden trouble-free flight, with Loe J. Sullivan as pilot and Walter E. Hensleigh as co-pilot, was made from this Goergia base on the 30th of June 1968. Located in Marietta, this airfield is known as Dobbins AFB by the USAF and by the USN as NAS Atlanta. Since early 1951, the runway and other facilities have been shared with Lockheed-Georgia Company. The first phase of manufacturer's flight trials proceeded without major problems (exempt for the loss of a main wheel during a routine landing accident; after the aircraft came to a standstill, the wheel was replaced, with the media having a field day with this event)," |
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wrote in message oups.com... wrote: This movie will be right up there in accuracy like "Air Force One." Or more like "Capricorn One" ROTFLMAO! Why do people have to make things so complicated? Hell its only a 30 minute flight (60 miles or so) at the most by a CH-47 from FtDix/McGuire AFB to Manhatten. It would take a lot longer than that to load or unload them from a C-5. |
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Diamond Jim wrote: wrote in message oups.com... wrote: This movie will be right up there in accuracy like "Air Force One." Or more like "Capricorn One" ROTFLMAO! Why do people have to make things so complicated? Hell its only a 30 minute flight (60 miles or so) at the most by a CH-47 from FtDix/McGuire AFB to Manhatten. It would take a lot longer than that to load or unload them from a C-5. Because he WANTS the C-5 to land in Central Park. And besides, uh, ahmm, oh, the helicopters were allready loaded on the C-5 to go some where else when they decided to steal them! YEA, THAT'S THE TICKET! |
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"John Keeney" wrote in message ups.com... Diamond Jim wrote: wrote in message oups.com... wrote: This movie will be right up there in accuracy like "Air Force One." Or more like "Capricorn One" ROTFLMAO! Why do people have to make things so complicated? Hell its only a 30 minute flight (60 miles or so) at the most by a CH-47 from FtDix/McGuire AFB to Manhatten. It would take a lot longer than that to load or unload them from a C-5. Because he WANTS the C-5 to land in Central Park. And besides, uh, ahmm, oh, the helicopters were allready loaded on the C-5 to go some where else when they decided to steal them! YEA, THAT'S THE TICKET! Well how the hell are you going to rescue anyone from a window on the side of a burning building anyway? You can't get a helicopter that close. As for landing on the roof, through the smoke, updrafts, no problem righttttttttt! What a bunch of BS. |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:14:00 GMT, "Diamond Jim"
wrote: "John Keeney" wrote in message oups.com... Diamond Jim wrote: wrote in message oups.com... wrote: This movie will be right up there in accuracy like "Air Force One." Or more like "Capricorn One" ROTFLMAO! Why do people have to make things so complicated? Hell its only a 30 minute flight (60 miles or so) at the most by a CH-47 from FtDix/McGuire AFB to Manhatten. It would take a lot longer than that to load or unload them from a C-5. Because he WANTS the C-5 to land in Central Park. And besides, uh, ahmm, oh, the helicopters were allready loaded on the C-5 to go some where else when they decided to steal them! YEA, THAT'S THE TICKET! Well how the hell are you going to rescue anyone from a window on the side of a burning building anyway? You can't get a helicopter that close. As for landing on the roof, through the smoke, updrafts, no problem righttttttttt! What a bunch of BS. You might want to review the news coverage of the Las Vegas hotel fire at the MGM Grand about 20 years ago. Both window and rooftop extractions by helicopter were accomplished. Noteworthy was the fact that Korean War hero Boots Blesse was among the guests rescued. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" www.thunderchief.org www.thundertales.blogspot.com |
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Landing a C5 Galaxy in Central Park
If you can find a copy of "Check Six" you can read Boots' elucidation
of the MGM Grand fire. ISTR they were on the 25th floor. Boots was his usual cool self, but I was really impressed by his lady's actions. She just said something like 'Tell em what to do-" he did, and she did it! Just think about stepping off the balcony 25 stories up. She'd do to ride the river with! For short landings - I used to have a videotape of a 727 doing a maximum performance short field landing. The aircraft was stopped in less than 1400 feet of ground roll. The 727 is a little unique in that it came from the factory with nose wheel brakes, but they won't engage unless braking effort exceeds something like at least 80% of maximum. Alas, the tape was left with the college when I retired. Walt BJ |
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