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  #91  
Old September 2nd 08, 10:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
John Godwin
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Make sure we're on the same page with the above. I might not have
stated this as accurately as I should have,
What I'm saying doesn't conflict with the Pass= fly regardless of
age. It simply RECOGNIZES that at a certain point while following
the "plan", a pilot WILL reach a specific point in time where the
medical can no longer be passed. In other words, Fail= no longer
fly. What I'm saying is simply that even my "plan" so to speak,
ends up with basically what we have now :-)) You fly until you
can't pass the physical then no more. The same issue remains. The
"rub" is that no matter what is done, the end of the road seems
unchanged. There can very well be a point where the pilot passes
the physical at some ripe old age, then has that heart attack in
the air during the periods between physicals.
This is the basis for what I have envisioned as a "plan" to
shorten the period between physicals as a pilot ages.


My situation is one of cost. I can easily pass the FAA Medical (even
at my age) but have decided not to try after passing my last one.

I have a Special Issuance wherein the FAA required documentation from
each of my two physicians. My Medical Group charges nearly $100 per
"official" letter and then there's the AME fee. I felt that a little
under $300 each year was a tad much at this time so it may well be
that it's time to hang up the spurs or do other flying alternatives.

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Old September 2nd 08, 11:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"John Godwin" wrote in message
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My situation is one of cost. I can easily pass the FAA Medical (even
at my age) but have decided not to try after passing my last one.

I have a Special Issuance wherein the FAA required documentation from
each of my two physicians. My Medical Group charges nearly $100 per
"official" letter and then there's the AME fee. I felt that a little
under $300 each year was a tad much at this time so it may well be
that it's time to hang up the spurs or do other flying alternatives.

--


That a shame John, sorry to hear it.

How old are you, and why the special?


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Old September 2nd 08, 11:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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John Godwin wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
:

Make sure we're on the same page with the above. I might not have
stated this as accurately as I should have,
What I'm saying doesn't conflict with the Pass= fly regardless of
age. It simply RECOGNIZES that at a certain point while following
the "plan", a pilot WILL reach a specific point in time where the
medical can no longer be passed. In other words, Fail= no longer
fly. What I'm saying is simply that even my "plan" so to speak,
ends up with basically what we have now :-)) You fly until you
can't pass the physical then no more. The same issue remains. The
"rub" is that no matter what is done, the end of the road seems
unchanged. There can very well be a point where the pilot passes
the physical at some ripe old age, then has that heart attack in
the air during the periods between physicals.
This is the basis for what I have envisioned as a "plan" to
shorten the period between physicals as a pilot ages.


My situation is one of cost. I can easily pass the FAA Medical (even
at my age) but have decided not to try after passing my last one.

I have a Special Issuance wherein the FAA required documentation from
each of my two physicians. My Medical Group charges nearly $100 per
"official" letter and then there's the AME fee. I felt that a little
under $300 each year was a tad much at this time so it may well be
that it's time to hang up the spurs or do other flying alternatives.

That's a CRIME. I'm VERY sorry this is happening to you. I never quite
know what to do or say when I see things like this happening to a pilot.
We're at the mercy of these damn doctors and they know it. You could
complain, but many times that simply ends up in an endless loop that
goes nowhere. Charging $100 to fill out a form is a gross over charge
and the only reason they can get away with it is because you HAVE to
have it.
This doctor could easily have been a lawyer!


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  #94  
Old September 3rd 08, 12:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Lonnie[_3_]
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"Lou" wrote in message
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On Sep 1, 8:07 am, "Zebulon" @###@.^net wrote:
"Lou" wrote in message

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On Aug 31, 11:39 pm, Stella Starr wrote:
Ramsey wrote:


If you call that an answer, you're a dumb ass.


Boy, you sure contribute a lot to the discussion.
Bet you're proud when people google all your thoughtful contributions.
Why bother?


Well Stella, what do you expect from someone
named after a condom?
Lou


A Ramsey condom? Yep, you're a dumb ass.

But not to worry, it's not too late.You and Stella can still answer him
directly and fill this thread out to 200 or 300 posts as usual.

Arguing the fine points of yanking the medical of thousands of healthy
pilots, just because of their age, could make a really nice fire that
would
undoubtedly burn for days.

So by all means, have at it.


You really couldn't be this stupid, could you?
Lou


No, but apparently you could.


  #96  
Old September 3rd 08, 01:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"John Godwin" wrote

I have a Special Issuance wherein the FAA required documentation from
each of my two physicians. My Medical Group charges nearly $100 per
"official" letter and then there's the AME fee. I felt that a little
under $300 each year was a tad much at this time so it may well be
that it's time to hang up the spurs or do other flying alternatives.


Go find you a sexy little experimental homebuilt that fits in the Light
Sport class.

No more medicals!
--
Jim in NC


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Old September 3rd 08, 02:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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In rec.aviation.owning Gezellig wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:55:05 GMT, wrote:

In rec.aviation.owning Gezellig wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:55:06 GMT,
wrote:

And some aren't Dudley neither of which is the point. The point is that
Fed/FAA gets aggressive, age could come into question regardless. For
that matter, why not a local port like Vegas throwing up their own
rules?

Because local airports can't make special rules just for them that are
contrary to FAA rules.

--
Jim Pennino

Good point. I wonder, are there any potential local, non FAA regs that
could workaround this ?


Are you familiar with the terms "Supremacy Clause" and "Federal Preemption"?


I'm familiar with "we don't rent airplanes to over 70s" which would be a
potential workaround the FAA.


Apples and oranges.

What a private business does within the framework of discrimination
laws is entirely up to the private business.

The FBO may not rent to over 70 (never heard of such a thing in airplanes),
but the airport certainly can't ban over 70.

If anyone cared to press the point, I doubt that such practices by car
rental agencies would stand a court test.


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Jim Pennino

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  #98  
Old September 3rd 08, 03:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Mike[_22_]
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"Lonnie" @_#~#@.^net wrote in message
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"Gezellig" wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:58:12 -0700, Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote:

Hell, I'm 72 and fly an experimental helicopter which, because of my
modifications involve a bit of "Test Flying". More than that, I
recently
soloed an ultralight helicopter where the only check out possible was to
get
the numbers for rpm and egt.
If they are going to put age limits on flying, they better start with
age
limits for people driving and especially driving those huge motor homes
just
a few feet from my car at closing velocities around 150mph and better.


Apples and oranges imo Stu-Kath.


It wouldn't be IMO. I have a much greater fear of getting creamed head on,
than dodging falling private aircraft.


From behind the keyboard at mommy's house there's not much chance either
way, Maxie.

  #99  
Old September 3rd 08, 04:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Pietro
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"Lonnie" @_#~#@.^net wrote in
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How old are you, and why the special?


Pushing 70 and well-controlled Type II Diabetes (A1C=6.0 and
decreasing) and Chronic lymphocytic leukemia.

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