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Old October 17th 14, 07:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Duster
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Default iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?
Thanks,
Michael
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Old October 17th 14, 08:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Christopher Bishop
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Default iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

On Friday, October 17, 2014 7:15:51 AM UTC+1, Duster wrote:
With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?

Thanks,

Michael


Wait a couple more weeks and get a nexus 6, android for xcsoar.
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Old October 17th 14, 04:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Before you decide on either try to have a viewing in full sunlight to
see if they're, in fact, useful at all.

I had a Galaxy III for a while and found it next to useless in direct
sunlight. I made a sun shade from construction paper and tape and that
helped but, when the sun was behind me, the Galaxy III was useless. I
used my wife's Nexus 7 in my glider and found that it was readable in
sunlight, but just barely when the sun was behind me.

I have no experience with the Oudie but I lot of people like them.

I use a Dell Streak 5 which is fully readable in all lighting
conditions, including the sun over my shoulder. I like it so much, in
fact, that I bought a second one to keep as a spare for that inevitable
day when the one I fly with dies or gets stepped on. You can get them
brand new on Amazon for $100 and XCSoar and Tophat are free.

Dan Marotta

On 10/17/2014 12:15 AM, Duster wrote:
With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?
Thanks,
Michael



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Old October 17th 14, 05:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jfitch
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Default iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

On Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:15:51 PM UTC-7, Duster wrote:
With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?

Thanks,

Michael


Depends on what software you want to run? Certainly there are more programs available for Android, however iGlide only runs on the iPhone and makes the others look two decades dated.
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Old October 17th 14, 06:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bruce Hoult[_2_]
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Default iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

On 2014-10-17 16:22:31 +0000, jfitch said:

On Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:15:51 PM UTC-7, Duster wrote:
With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the
Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for
running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?

Thanks,

Michael


Depends on what software you want to run? Certainly there are more
programs available for Android, however iGlide only runs on the iPhone
and makes the others look two decades dated.


Wow, that's pricey!!

OK, it's cheaper than the iPhone, let alone the glider. And I'm sure
the market is small and the developer needs to buy groceries...

Does it work only from the internal sensors (e.g. GPS), or can it
receive info from airspeed, heading, vario etc? If so, how?

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Old October 17th 14, 07:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jfitch
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Default iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:13:28 AM UTC-7, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On 2014-10-17 16:22:31 +0000, jfitch said:



On Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:15:51 PM UTC-7, Duster wrote:


With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the


Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for


running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?




Thanks,




Michael




Depends on what software you want to run? Certainly there are more


programs available for Android, however iGlide only runs on the iPhone


and makes the others look two decades dated.




Wow, that's pricey!!



OK, it's cheaper than the iPhone, let alone the glider. And I'm sure

the market is small and the developer needs to buy groceries...



Does it work only from the internal sensors (e.g. GPS), or can it

receive info from airspeed, heading, vario etc? If so, how?


iGlide will work with the internal GPS, maybe in the future it might use the barometric sensor in the iPhone 6 though one shouldn't expect great vario performance from that.

But you can connect it to your other instruments one way or another. With a Butterfly vario, via WiFi. With other instruments, via the Air Avionics (Butterfly) Air Connect, which creates a WiFi connection from your standard 9 pin serial NMEA stream. Or buy Air's black box sensor/recorder Air Sens which also includes the WiFi interface (but I don't think gives you variometer functions?).

For navigation and most glide calculations the internal GPS alone does an OK job. Connected to your other systems you get barographic glide calculations, Flarm leeching display, thermal assistant, etc. Price is a bit cheaper than SYM, even for the Pro version, eh? No other software even comes close to the user interface.
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Old October 17th 14, 10:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Craig Funston
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Default iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

On Friday, October 17, 2014 11:44:45 AM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:13:28 AM UTC-7, Bruce Hoult wrote:

On 2014-10-17 16:22:31 +0000, jfitch said:








On Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:15:51 PM UTC-7, Duster wrote:




With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the




Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for




running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?








Thanks,








Michael








Depends on what software you want to run? Certainly there are more




programs available for Android, however iGlide only runs on the iPhone




and makes the others look two decades dated.








Wow, that's pricey!!








OK, it's cheaper than the iPhone, let alone the glider. And I'm sure




the market is small and the developer needs to buy groceries...








Does it work only from the internal sensors (e.g. GPS), or can it




receive info from airspeed, heading, vario etc? If so, how?




iGlide will work with the internal GPS, maybe in the future it might use the barometric sensor in the iPhone 6 though one shouldn't expect great vario performance from that.



But you can connect it to your other instruments one way or another. With a Butterfly vario, via WiFi. With other instruments, via the Air Avionics (Butterfly) Air Connect, which creates a WiFi connection from your standard 9 pin serial NMEA stream. Or buy Air's black box sensor/recorder Air Sens which also includes the WiFi interface (but I don't think gives you variometer functions?).



For navigation and most glide calculations the internal GPS alone does an OK job. Connected to your other systems you get barographic glide calculations, Flarm leeching display, thermal assistant, etc. Price is a bit cheaper than SYM, even for the Pro version, eh? No other software even comes close to the user interface.


Is the iPhone 6 plus display easily readable in strong sunlight?

Thanks,
Craig
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Old October 18th 14, 01:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jfitch
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Default iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

On Friday, October 17, 2014 2:59:02 PM UTC-7, Craig Funston wrote:
On Friday, October 17, 2014 11:44:45 AM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:

On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:13:28 AM UTC-7, Bruce Hoult wrote:




On 2014-10-17 16:22:31 +0000, jfitch said:
















On Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:15:51 PM UTC-7, Duster wrote:








With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the








Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for








running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?
















Thanks,
















Michael
















Depends on what software you want to run? Certainly there are more








programs available for Android, however iGlide only runs on the iPhone








and makes the others look two decades dated.
















Wow, that's pricey!!
















OK, it's cheaper than the iPhone, let alone the glider. And I'm sure








the market is small and the developer needs to buy groceries...
















Does it work only from the internal sensors (e.g. GPS), or can it








receive info from airspeed, heading, vario etc? If so, how?








iGlide will work with the internal GPS, maybe in the future it might use the barometric sensor in the iPhone 6 though one shouldn't expect great vario performance from that.








But you can connect it to your other instruments one way or another. With a Butterfly vario, via WiFi. With other instruments, via the Air Avionics (Butterfly) Air Connect, which creates a WiFi connection from your standard 9 pin serial NMEA stream. Or buy Air's black box sensor/recorder Air Sens which also includes the WiFi interface (but I don't think gives you variometer functions?).








For navigation and most glide calculations the internal GPS alone does an OK job. Connected to your other systems you get barographic glide calculations, Flarm leeching display, thermal assistant, etc. Price is a bit cheaper than SYM, even for the Pro version, eh? No other software even comes close to the user interface.




Is the iPhone 6 plus display easily readable in strong sunlight?



Thanks,

Craig


Good question. I haven't been able to find one to look. The brightness specs are the same as the 5s, but the contrast specs are better. I have found the 5s to be marginal in direct sun, and unreadable if there are reflections in the direct sun. Somewhat better if you turn off terrain. Not as bright as the Avier/OudieII, but brighter than the iPaq 39xx. The screen on the iPhone is MUCH higher resolution than the Avier/Oudie, but physically smaller until you get a 6 or 6 plus. The larger size cannot hurt. It is not a transflective like the Dell.
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Old October 20th 14, 06:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default iPhone 6+ or Galaxy Note 4?

On Friday, 17 October 2014 08:15:51 UTC+2, Duster wrote:
With the larger-format 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus coming out to match the Galaxy Note 4, which of those two do glider pilots recommend for running common navigation software? ...or other pluses/minuses?

Thanks,

Michael


Besides the screen brightness, there are a few other questions I'd ask such as:

1. If also intend using the phone for every day use, which of the two eco systems do you want to tie yourself into? Apple's payware, do-it-our-way-only system or the more flexible, more open Android eco system?

2. Does Apple cover accidental damage?
With Samsung you get also get two free, no questions asked, free repairs for accidental screen or water damage. (ADH Premium)

3. Battery life. Not having to use external power saves on the expense and hassle of extra cabling and an external power source to keep the device running. The Note 4 has a significant advantage over the iPhone 6 in terms of battery life.
I use the Note 2 with XCSoar and from a full charge I get 8.5 hours of continuous use which is longer than I plan to stay in the air for.
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Old March 27th 17, 10:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The kobi e readers (at least some of them) are compatible with xc soar. Shouldn't e readers be a smart way to go with the lower battery use and very little disadvantage with black and white? Has anyone tried any other eReaders with xc soar? I imagine most E readers really are not built to operate in direct sunlight, same as phones/tablets but there could be some exceptions.

The dell streak 5" is around 300 dollars now.
 




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