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Old February 22nd 06, 03:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.student,alt.politics
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Immanuel Goldstein wrote:

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For a person not conversant with the practical complexities of pilotage,


If a person is conversant with the practical complexities of dead
reckoning, does that count?


--
Peter


As far as we know they had a Garmin GPS on the dash, that is all you would
need, that a clear day (which they had).

------------------------------------------
DW


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Old February 22nd 06, 03:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.student,alt.politics
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Well, that 2 morons the hijackers where able to fool, the flight
instructor trying to make a living, and Immanual Goldstien (obviously
not your real name.)

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Old February 22nd 06, 03:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.student,alt.politics
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On 2/22/2006 6:40 AM, Thomas Borchert enscribed:
Immanuel,

Complete text:
http://physics911.net/sagadevan.htm


Hilarious site. "Scientific panel", my a**. You guys need to get in
touch with the chemtrail people.


I am not part of a "group", so why the reference to "you guys"?


--
Closely Monitored,

Immanuel Goldstein

"The history of the present [US Government] is a history of repeated injuries
and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute
Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
- Declaration of Independence

The Pentagon Strike
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

The Demolition of WTC Building 7
http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/index.html#building7

"It's just a god-damned piece of paper!"
- Bush on the U.S. Constitution, http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12142005.html

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act."
- Orwell

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same
Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their
right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards
for their future security."
- Declaration of Independence
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Old February 22nd 06, 03:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.student,alt.politics
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Darkwing heducksmailTyahoo.com wrote:


As far as we know they had a Garmin GPS on the dash, that is all you would
need, that a clear day (which they had).


I was not attempting to actually discuss the content of the original post.
Instead, I was making light of the original author's apparent incorrect
usage of the word, "pilotage," given that he claims to be an "aeronautical
engineer and a qualified pilot of heavy aircraft."

Reread his original passage and see if you agree.

--
Peter
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Old February 22nd 06, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.student,alt.politics
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On 2/22/2006 7:45 AM, Matt Barrow enscribed:
He trolled to alt.building.construction group


I have never once posted to alt.building.construction. Unless you have evidence
to the contrary? Anyone reviewing my posting history on Google Groups can easily
see that I am not a troll.

That would make you a liar. As any American judge would say to a jury, "Any
witness that you find has told a single lie, you shall disregard _all_ of their
testimony."


--
Closely Monitored,

Immanuel Goldstein

"The history of the present [US Government] is a history of repeated injuries
and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute
Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
- Declaration of Independence

The Pentagon Strike
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

The Demolition of WTC Building 7
http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/index.html#building7

"It's just a god-damned piece of paper!"
- Bush on the U.S. Constitution, http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12142005.html

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act."
- Orwell

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same
Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their
right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards
for their future security."
- Declaration of Independence
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Old February 22nd 06, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.student,alt.politics
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"The history of the present [US Government] is a history of
repeated injuries
and usurpations, all having in direct object the
establishment of an absolute
Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be
submitted to a candid world."
- Declaration of Independence

This would have been the British Government, your history is
in error.



"Immanuel Goldstein" wrote in
message ...
| On 2/22/2006 7:45 AM, Matt Barrow enscribed:
| He trolled to alt.building.construction group
|
|
| I have never once posted to alt.building.construction.
Unless you have evidence
| to the contrary? Anyone reviewing my posting history on
Google Groups can easily
| see that I am not a troll.
|
| That would make you a liar. As any American judge would
say to a jury, "Any
| witness that you find has told a single lie, you shall
disregard _all_ of their
| testimony."
|
|
| --
| Closely Monitored,
|
| Immanuel Goldstein
|
| "The history of the present [US Government] is a history
of repeated injuries
| and usurpations, all having in direct object the
establishment of an absolute
| Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be
submitted to a candid world."
| - Declaration of Independence
|
| The Pentagon Strike
| http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm
|
| The Demolition of WTC Building 7
|
http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/index.html#building7
|
| "It's just a god-damned piece of paper!"
| - Bush on the U.S. Constitution,
http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12142005.html
|
| "Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a
revolutionary act."
| - Orwell
|
| "But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing
invariably the same
| Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute
Despotism, it is their
| right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and
to provide new Guards
| for their future security."
| - Declaration of Independence


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Old February 22nd 06, 04:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.student,alt.politics
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On 2/22/2006 8:05 AM, Jim Macklin enscribed:
I'm sure he voted for Kerry.


How laughable. The American political system is corrupt, and rotting away like a
leprous corpse. Americans still believe they have a "two-party" system, and this
system is used to foment distrust among its own citizens. This has been true
since Woodrow Wilson entered office.

Please refrain from further assumptions about someone you do not know. Frankly,
it makes you appear like an ass. The very act of assumption is what has biased
your thoughts into accepting the ludicrous lies and "conspiracy theory" you have
been told by your government.


--
Closely Monitored,

Immanuel Goldstein

"The history of the present [US Government] is a history of repeated injuries
and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute
Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
- Declaration of Independence

The Pentagon Strike
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

The Demolition of WTC Building 7
http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/index.html#building7

"It's just a god-damned piece of paper!"
- Bush on the U.S. Constitution, http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12142005.html

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act."
- Orwell

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same
Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their
right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards
for their future security."
- Declaration of Independence
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On 2/22/2006 8:50 AM, Lou enscribed:
Well, that 2 morons the hijackers where able to fool, the flight
instructor trying to make a living, and Immanual Goldstien (obviously
not your real name.)


What hijackers?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm


--
Closely Monitored,

Immanuel Goldstein

"The history of the present [US Government] is a history of repeated injuries
and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute
Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
- Declaration of Independence

The Pentagon Strike
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

The Demolition of WTC Building 7
http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/index.html#building7

"It's just a god-damned piece of paper!"
- Bush on the U.S. Constitution, http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12142005.html

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act."
- Orwell

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same
Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their
right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards
for their future security."
- Declaration of Independence
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On 2/22/2006 8:41 AM, Dan Luke enscribed:
Loon.


A wonderful example of avian evolution. Your proof?


--
Closely Monitored,

Immanuel Goldstein

"The history of the present [US Government] is a history of repeated injuries
and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute
Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
- Declaration of Independence

The Pentagon Strike
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

The Demolition of WTC Building 7
http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/index.html#building7

"It's just a god-damned piece of paper!"
- Bush on the U.S. Constitution, http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12142005.html

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act."
- Orwell

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same
Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their
right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards
for their future security."
- Declaration of Independence
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Old February 22nd 06, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.student,alt.politics
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On 2/22/2006 8:22 AM, Dudley Henriques enscribed:
I know some of the people personally who investigated the airborne phase of
9/11


Doesn't everyone?

Aside from that, your "theory"


I did not write the article, therefore it is not my "theory."


--
Closely Monitored,

Immanuel Goldstein

"The history of the present [US Government] is a history of repeated injuries
and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute
Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
- Declaration of Independence

The Pentagon Strike
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

The Demolition of WTC Building 7
http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/index.html#building7

"It's just a god-damned piece of paper!"
- Bush on the U.S. Constitution, http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp12142005.html

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act."
- Orwell

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same
Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their
right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards
for their future security."
- Declaration of Independence
 




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