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Cherokee Pilots Association Fly-In Just Gets Better and Better
We just returned from the 3rd Annual Cherokee Pilots Association Fly-In,
held at Tan-Tar-A resort at Osage Beach, Missouri (in the Lake of the Ozarks area), and, wow -- this group just keeps getting better and better. What a great weekend! As the arrivals continued on Friday morning, a large group of pilots migrated out to the runway, where someone produced a large dry-erase board for "landing judging." Mary garnered an "8" from this very tough crowd, with the highest rating being a "9" (for an absolutely perfect squeaker), and the lowest being a "4" (for arriving in the pattern on a right downwind, directly into the teeth of two other planes on a LEFT downwind!). We eventually joined them, and spent a great afternoon watching planes arrive from all over the country. Friday night kicked off the festivities with a fantastic cookout, put on by the Missouri Pilots Association at the Grand Glaize Airport (K15), home airport for the fly-in. It was extremely well attended, and Av-Tek kicked in a bunch of free beer -- and not much makes a bunch of pilots happier than free beer! Then, starting at 8 AM Saturday, a full day of forums were conducted by many different presenters. Everything from airspace incursions and intercept procedures (presented by a very funny Air Force F-15 driver), to propeller overhaul procedures -- and everything in between -- was presented, and I attended as many as I could while Mary took the kids to Tan-Tar-A's water park. Before, between, and after the forums, many, many hours of enjoyable and informative hangar flying took place. What a great bunch of guys and gals to hang out with -- and you shoulda seen some of the planes! We're talking better-than-new here, with glass panels, and enough dead cow to keep a lion pride fed for a month... The judges for the competition had a helluva time selecting winners in each category (I.E.: Early 140s; late 140s; Early 180s; 235s; Saratogas; etc.) -- it was very close. That night we all dined in one of Tan-Tar-A's big banquet halls, and -- after the judging awards were presented to the dozen-or so winners of their "Best Cherokee" categories -- we were able to listen to (and question) Chuck Suma, president of New Piper, who appeared as the keynote speaker. Mr. Suma is a very open, honest, and accessible guy (we shot the breeze with him for 30 minutes after his speech, and we talked about everything from his years bucking rivets at "Old" Piper, to possibly bringing out a new 4-place based on a shortened Malibu fuselage), and it was really great for him to make an appearance at our fly-in. This was followed by hours of dancing, and many more hours of hangar flying, well into the wee hours. Then, today, the vendors were open again for a few hours, and the freebie drawings were held. We once again won (this time a plastic piece from Plane Plastics -- one that I had JUST broken a few weeks ago, conveniently enough!), and we were soon being shuttled back to the airport, where the biggest bunch of Cherokees you'll ever see were starting up and getting ready to depart. You Cherokee drivers who are NOT a part of this great organization are really missing a great educational and social opportunity. Not only is the CPA's on-line chat ("Cherokee Chat") website the best source of information for your Cherokee, but your annual dues get you a decent monthly magazine, and the right to attend what is rapidly becoming one the best annual fly-ins around! I urge you to join, and attend next year's event, which is being planned for June 2006. (Less interference with OSH.) See their website at http://www.piperowner.com/ See more info about the fly-in at http://www.cherokeeflyin.com/ -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Hi Jay,
Did the new Piper fellow happen to mention anything about a possibility of making a new generation of Cub,...bet alot of sport pilots and non-sport pilots would like to see that. Patrick student SPL aircraft structural mech |
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W P Dixon wrote:
Did the new Piper fellow happen to mention anything about a possibility of making a new generation of Cub,...bet alot of sport pilots and non-sport pilots would like to see that. Piper abandoned all thought of making any of the Cub series after losing the lawsuit in which some idiot ran into a truck while carrying a commercial video camera on a pedestal mounted where the front seat should be, a cameraman with his pack to the panel, towing a glider. The plaintif's argument was that they were negligent in manufacturing an aircraft with such poor forward visibility. They also canceled negotiations to license or sell the Super Cub certification to Huskey. IMO, that actually worked out really well, since the Huskey that resulted from independent certification is a much better aircraft than the Super Cub. George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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Then, today, the vendors were open again for a few hours, and the freebie
drawings were held. We once again won (this time a plastic piece from Plane Plastics -- one that I had JUST broken a few weeks ago, conveniently enough!) So... you mean rather than spending my weekend sanding, prepping, fiberglassing, patching, reinforcing, re-sanding, re-prepping and painting our 40 year old interior window plastic, I could have just flown down to the Cherokee Fly-In, send the wife and kids off swimming, hung around gawking at some great planes and maybe I'd have just WON a piece or two?? I must be insane, but now it's confirmed... Jay you suck. Next year.... next year. Jim Burns |
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So... you mean rather than spending my weekend sanding, prepping,
fiberglassing, patching, reinforcing, re-sanding, re-prepping and painting our 40 year old interior window plastic, I could have just flown down to the Cherokee Fly-In, send the wife and kids off swimming, hung around gawking at some great planes and maybe I'd have just WON a piece or two?? Well, Jim, I'm not sure what category your twin would have been judged in. Maybe you could have registered it as TWO Cherokees? :-) I must be insane, but now it's confirmed... Jay you suck. Hey. I resemble that remark! :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Did the new Piper fellow happen to mention anything about a possibility
of making a new generation of Cub,...bet alot of sport pilots and non-sport pilots would like to see that. No, he pretty much dismissed the sport plane market. He did talk about "partnering" with someone as an option -- so may they'll join hands with Cub Crafters, or something? I'm a bit worried about the way he dismissed composite aircraft, too. He may be a bit too much in the past... On the other hand, it's hard to argue with his success. Question is, will he be able to sustain Piper's recovery? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Well, Jim, I'm not sure what category your twin would have been judged in.
Maybe you could have registered it as TWO Cherokees? While it's actually a derivative of the tube and fabric twin tailed Twin Stinson and not a Cherokee, it's got an Indian name and that big ole fat wing that Piper made famous. I think they'd find somewhere to put us. I told Tami about your trip and the nearby waterpark and she said to put it on our list for next year. Jim |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
I'm a bit worried about the way he dismissed composite aircraft, too. He may be a bit too much in the past... He's not that offbase, Jay. Until the FAA gets realistic and allows that composite structures don't really need to be as beefy and overbuilt as they now require, the excess weight is not going to go away and the advantage of composites will not be realize. Even if the manufacturer spends millions of dollars for waterjet cutters, autoclaves, vaccuum bagging and winding machines, composite structures are still labor intensive and are easily contaminated. Getting the material properly wetted to an even consistancy is difficult and wasteful. Beech is the only company to fully embrace composites, largely because of the Starship program. That was an expensive learning lesson for them, but they are probably the leading manufactures in the field as a result. Aluminum is easy to fabricate, you know how much it really weights, and you can train most anyone to work with it. The only thing you really cannot control is the metal market and related costs. |
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