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Old October 18th 16, 11:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Kevin Christner
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Does anyone else think this would be an unbelievable combination?
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Old October 18th 16, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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To further elaborate with its low weight it could probably self launch
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Old October 19th 16, 12:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 6:55:07 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
To further elaborate with its low weight it could probably self launch


It already does in 13.5 m configuration, shortened wing tips and modified cone.

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Old October 19th 16, 01:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Are these being produced / would it be possible with the 15m?
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Old October 19th 16, 04:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Stephanos glider, as I understand, can fly 13.5 or 15.
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Old October 19th 16, 07:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 12:46:41 AM UTC+2, Kevin Christner wrote:
Does anyone else think this would be an unbelievable combination?


Why spoil Dianas performace advantage with and FES?
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Old October 20th 16, 01:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Il giorno mercoledì 19 ottobre 2016 05:27:35 UTC+2, Tony ha scritto:
Stephanos glider, as I understand, can fly 13.5 or 15


for the moment at least, you need to have your own Diana2 and modify it. Alisport I think already modified two existing Dianas

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Old October 20th 16, 02:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Per Carlin wrote on 10/18/2016 11:15 PM:
On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 12:46:41 AM UTC+2, Kevin Christner wrote:
Does anyone else think this would be an unbelievable combination?


Why spoil Dianas performace advantage with and FES?


Performance advantage over what? There are many higher performance
gliders than the Diana! ;^)

A Diana with an FES has a slightly lower gliding performance, but it's
performance by other measures is increased. It's self-retrieving
performance allows it to have good flights in marginal weather that
would have a standard Diana back on the ground in short order, and in
good weather, it let's a pilot practice fast flying more aggressively
than he would otherwise dare to.

And if it's self-launching, it's soaring performance from airports
without towplanes would be spectacularly better!

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- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
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tes.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf
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Old October 20th 16, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 9:12:01 AM UTC-4, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Per Carlin wrote on 10/18/2016 11:15 PM:
On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 12:46:41 AM UTC+2, Kevin Christner wrote:
Does anyone else think this would be an unbelievable combination?


Why spoil Dianas performace advantage with and FES?


Performance advantage over what? There are many higher performance
gliders than the Diana! ;^)


Not in the 15 m class.


A Diana with an FES has a slightly lower gliding performance, but it's
performance by other measures is increased. It's self-retrieving
performance allows it to have good flights in marginal weather that
would have a standard Diana back on the ground in short order, and in
good weather, it let's a pilot practice fast flying more aggressively
than he would otherwise dare to.

And if it's self-launching, it's soaring performance from airports
without towplanes would be spectacularly better!

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://si
tes.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf


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Old October 20th 16, 04:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 2:15:27 AM UTC-4, Per Carlin wrote:
On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 12:46:41 AM UTC+2, Kevin Christner wrote:
Does anyone else think this would be an unbelievable combination?


Why spoil Dianas performace advantage with and FES?


So I can drive 20 minutes to an airport and self launch, rather than 2+ hours to a towplane.

Also, you can always take the FES nose cap off and put on a clean one if you thought you could win a national championship. I am unlikely to be there any time soon.
 




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