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  #31  
Old October 19th 10, 12:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Oct 18, 1:37*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Oct 17, 9:36*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
Because electric airplanes are soon to
replace the fossil fueled redneck planes.


If by soon you mean maybe in 50 years or so.


http://energysavinggadgets.net/world...-airplane/2009....


Oh, wow, a single place airplane that can fly for all of 2 hours.


Whoopee.


It will fly for 20 hours by using the proven battery
technology which has already been developed at
the Univ. of Maryland. The "self-assembly" prevalent
with nanoengineering was achieved with the M13
tobacco virus, creating an energy density ten times
that of a lithium ion battery.


You mean it will fly powered by a breathless press release and doesn't
need a battery that is actually in production?


You mean it should be kept a secret until they
carry it at Walmart? (cause you keep implying this)

Guess you don't know what proof of concept means.

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  #32  
Old October 19th 10, 12:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Oct 18, 1:35*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Oct 18, 8:29*am, Mark wrote:
On Oct 17, 9:36*pm, wrote:


Mark wrote:
Because electric airplanes are soon to
replace the fossil fueled redneck planes.


If by soon you mean maybe in 50 years or so.


http://energysavinggadgets.net/world...-airplane/2009...


Oh, wow, a single place airplane that can fly for all of 2 hours.


Whoopee.


Electric planes will replace internal combustion
airplanes.


Not in the lifetime of anyone old enough to read this.


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Polymer exchange membrane fuel cells:http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-e...ve-fuels/fuel-...


More specifically, your hydrogen is easily
obtained by even the poorest of solar panels.


Typical naive comment; it is techincally easy to obtain hydrogen though not
particularly cheap to do so and a giant pain in the butt to collect, store,
and transport.


Once again, you don't know what either I, or you,
are talking about. Artificial photosynthesis splits
water at low voltage, and the recombination of it
creates electric voltage. This will charge batteries
to serve all our flying needs.

As usual, no sense whatsoever for the big picture, much like your thinking
that Part 141 schools are the entirety of flight training.


I never made that claim. You got lost (as usual) in
your own alzheimer world of pig headedness. I simply
told you that at a 141 school they won't give you credit
to just go and practice what interests you, and in
most cases they won't give you the plane keys. In
turn, you wasted considerable bandwidth arguing
different topics as your mind meandered to them.

End of Story.

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  #33  
Old October 19th 10, 12:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Oct 18, 1:35*pm, wrote:

More specifically, your hydrogen is easily
obtained by even the poorest of solar panels.


Typical naive comment; it is techincally easy to obtain hydrogen though not
particularly cheap to do so and a giant pain in the butt to collect, store,
and transport.


It is very cheap to obtain hydrogen, easy to
collect, easy to store, easy to transport. This
is a fact. But there is no need to transport it
anywhere. It is best used to make electricity.

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  #34  
Old October 19th 10, 12:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Oct 18, 4:17*pm, george wrote:
On Oct 19, 6:35*am, wrote:

Typical naive comment; it is techincally easy to obtain hydrogen though not
particularly cheap to do so and a giant pain in the butt to collect, store,
and transport.


The Zeppelin was an example of hydrogen and aviation not mixing


The Hindenburg was sabotaged.

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  #35  
Old October 19th 10, 12:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.arts.movies.past-films,alt.slack,sci.physics
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:18:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

It is very cheap to obtain hydrogen, easy to
collect, easy to store, easy to transport. This
is a fact. But there is no need to transport it
anywhere. It is best used to make electricity.
I invented hydrogen. In fact, I fart it.
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  #36  
Old October 19th 10, 12:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.arts.movies.past-films,alt.slack,sci.physics
Ari Silverstein
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:21:56 -0400, Ted Sherman wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:18:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

It is very cheap to obtain hydrogen, easy to
collect, easy to store, easy to transport. This
is a fact. But there is no need to transport it
anywhere. It is best used to make electricity.
I invented hydrogen. In fact, I fart it.
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Mark


ooooooooooooooooooooooooK


Would you consider lighting one of those farts and blowing your butt
off?

TIA.

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Old October 19th 10, 12:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.arts.movies.past-films,alt.slack,sci.physics
bert
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On Oct 18, 7:23*pm, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:21:56 -0400, Ted Sherman wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:18:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:


It is very cheap to obtain hydrogen, easy to
collect, easy to store, easy to transport. This
is a fact. But there is no need to transport it
anywhere. It is best used to make electricity.
I invented hydrogen. In fact, I fart it.
---
Mark


ooooooooooooooooooooooooK


Would you consider lighting one of those farts and blowing your butt
off?

TIA.

lol
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Water and steam turbos are every where. TreBert
  #38  
Old October 19th 10, 12:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mark wrote:
On Oct 18, 1:35*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Oct 18, 8:29*am, Mark wrote:
On Oct 17, 9:36*pm, wrote:


Mark wrote:
Because electric airplanes are soon to
replace the fossil fueled redneck planes.


If by soon you mean maybe in 50 years or so.


http://energysavinggadgets.net/world...-airplane/2009...


Oh, wow, a single place airplane that can fly for all of 2 hours.


Whoopee.


Electric planes will replace internal combustion
airplanes.


Not in the lifetime of anyone old enough to read this.


--
Jim Pennino


Remove .spam.sux to reply.


Polymer exchange membrane fuel cells:http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-e...ve-fuels/fuel-...


More specifically, your hydrogen is easily
obtained by even the poorest of solar panels.


Typical naive comment; it is techincally easy to obtain hydrogen though not
particularly cheap to do so and a giant pain in the butt to collect, store,
and transport.


Once again, you don't know what either I, or you,
are talking about. Artificial photosynthesis splits
water at low voltage, and the recombination of it
creates electric voltage. This will charge batteries
to serve all our flying needs.


Maybe in theory, but it has nothing to do with your statement of "...your
hydrogen is is easily..."

Artificial photosynthesis is yet another labratory "product" with no
practical applications or product in sight just like all your other
marvels that will be here "any day now".

As usual, no sense whatsoever for the big picture, much like your thinking
that Part 141 schools are the entirety of flight training.


I never made that claim.


Correct, you never made that precise statement; what you did was extrapolate
on the requirement for Part 141 schools to have a FAA approved syllabus
and applied that requirement to all flight training, which is nonsense.

Moreover you claimed the FAA provides the syllabus, which is more nonsense.


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Old October 19th 10, 12:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mark wrote:
On Oct 18, 1:31*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Oct 17, 9:36*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
Because electric airplanes are soon to
replace the fossil fueled redneck planes.


If by soon you mean maybe in 50 years or so.


http://energysavinggadgets.net/world...-airplane/2009...


Oh, wow, a single place airplane that can fly for all of 2 hours.


Whoopee.


Electric planes will replace internal combustion
airplanes.


Not in the lifetime of anyone old enough to read this.


--
Jim Pennino


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Polymer exchange membrane fuel cells:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-e...ve-fuels/fuel-...


Let us know when you can run any vehicle on a press release.


Ha ha! Let you know when fuel cells run cars? Heh!
Guess you haven't hear about Iceland.


Where's the production car available to the general public?

Yeah, that's right, it doesn't exist other than as press releases.

At least you've switched your naive hopes from batteries to a technology
that might actually someday be viable as a practical energy source for
vehicles.


No, the batteries have already been invented. They
just haven't been manufactured for consumers yet.


The word "invented" does not mean "practical", "producable", or "affordable".


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Old October 19th 10, 12:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mark wrote:
On Oct 18, 1:37*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Oct 17, 9:36*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
Because electric airplanes are soon to
replace the fossil fueled redneck planes.


If by soon you mean maybe in 50 years or so.


http://energysavinggadgets.net/world...-airplane/2009...


Oh, wow, a single place airplane that can fly for all of 2 hours.


Whoopee.


It will fly for 20 hours by using the proven battery
technology which has already been developed at
the Univ. of Maryland. The "self-assembly" prevalent
with nanoengineering was achieved with the M13
tobacco virus, creating an energy density ten times
that of a lithium ion battery.


You mean it will fly powered by a breathless press release and doesn't
need a battery that is actually in production?


You mean it should be kept a secret until they
carry it at Walmart? (cause you keep implying this)


No, I mean it doesn't exist as a production item and probably won't in the
lifetime of anyone currently reading this.

The value of a press release is the value of the paper it is printed on at
the recycle center.

Guess you don't know what proof of concept means.


I know what "proof of concept" means.

What you don't seem to know is that "proof of concept" does not mean any
of "producable", "in production", "practical", or "affordable".


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