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  #41  
Old October 22nd 06, 09:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Ron Wanttaja
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 07:58:39 GMT, "Alt Beer" wrote:

http://www.wanttaja.com/hhrad2.JPG

Be afraid. Be very afraid. :-)


Looks like an IC-T8 ham rig on the panel.


Close. IC-A5 aircraft transceiver. Built in, powered by the aircraft electrical
system, hooked to the standard PTT switch. Replaced a defunct Narco, weighs
less than a pound. Hooked to an antenna made from Radio Shack and plumbing
parts.

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/antenna.htm

Ron Wanttaja

  #42  
Old October 22nd 06, 09:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Ron Wanttaja
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:06:24 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:

Ron Wanttaja writes:

Take a look, then, at a photo of the panel of *my* airplane:

http://www.wanttaja.com/hhrad2.JPG

Be afraid. Be very afraid. :-)


Where are the cabin pressure controls and the FMCs?


They fall away with the SRBs.

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/stories/leoraker.JPG

Ron Wanttaja
  #43  
Old October 22nd 06, 01:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jay B
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Mxsmanic wrote:

I should be able to take a commercial flight from KPHX to KSAN and be
there in about 40 minutes. In fact, it takes several hours.


Bull****...

Typical commercial ops between PHX and SAN take about 40-50 minutes
cycle to cycle

I've had it take longer (or shorter) due to ground movement capacity
issues at either the departure or arrival points but the actual flying
time has never taken "several hours."

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

  #44  
Old October 22nd 06, 01:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Viperdoc[_1_]
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Of course he's wrong, and continues making dogmatic yet incorrect statements
that provoke similar responses to yours- that's why he's a troll.


  #45  
Old October 22nd 06, 02:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Jay B writes:

Bull****...

Typical commercial ops between PHX and SAN take about 40-50 minutes
cycle to cycle


I'm not sure how you manage that, but a commercial flight for me
involves a lot more than the time between take-off and landing. In
fact, no commercial flight takes less than about 4 hours overall,
which is why I prefer high-speed trains for trips of less than 1000 km
or so.

I've had it take longer (or shorter) due to ground movement capacity
issues at either the departure or arrival points but the actual flying
time has never taken "several hours."


If only commercial airline flights required just "actual flying time."

The closest I can remember is America West flights at KPHX for which
you could buy a ticket and board about 20 minutes before the flight.
Overall that still added a good hour or more to the total time
required, though.

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Old October 22nd 06, 03:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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RK Henry writes:

Which parts? Why not?


Beach, mountains, movies, museum, etc. Most of these places don't
have a runway out in front, so they require a car rather than a plane.


Actually, you are incorrect. MANY airports have museums either on the field
or within walking distance. There are also airports within mountain terrain
(and of course, you don't actually have to land on a mountain to appreciate
it from the sky). And there are even several airports with Beaches on the
field or within easy reach of the airport by walking, taxi, or public
transportation.

Since I always say, "Name 3" here are 3 examples:

KTEB - Aviation Hall of Fame
26N - Walk to Ocean City Beach and Boardwalk
KACY - Short cab ride to Atlantic City Casinos (AIY is closer (walkable to
Casinos), but I believe they closed it recently)


There are many pleasurable things to do using aircraft, especially if you
enjoy flying. For those with a paranoid fear of flying, certainly they can
take their cars.
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Old October 22nd 06, 05:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Macklin
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Shangri-La at Grand Lake, golf and boating, you can also
fish.
Oshkosh Kalamazoo

another three


"Judah" wrote in message
. ..
| Mxsmanic wrote in
| :
|
| RK Henry writes:
|
| Which parts? Why not?
|
| Beach, mountains, movies, museum, etc. Most of these
places don't
| have a runway out in front, so they require a car rather
than a plane.
|
|
| Actually, you are incorrect. MANY airports have museums
either on the field
| or within walking distance. There are also airports within
mountain terrain
| (and of course, you don't actually have to land on a
mountain to appreciate
| it from the sky). And there are even several airports with
Beaches on the
| field or within easy reach of the airport by walking,
taxi, or public
| transportation.
|
| Since I always say, "Name 3" here are 3 examples:
|
| KTEB - Aviation Hall of Fame
| 26N - Walk to Ocean City Beach and Boardwalk
| KACY - Short cab ride to Atlantic City Casinos (AIY is
closer (walkable to
| Casinos), but I believe they closed it recently)
|
|
| There are many pleasurable things to do using aircraft,
especially if you
| enjoy flying. For those with a paranoid fear of flying,
certainly they can
| take their cars.


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Old October 22nd 06, 05:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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I can't help but notice that your "fun" meter is pegged, even while it is
sitting on the ground. You really need to get that thing worked on. It
should
not move off the bottom peg at least until you start the engine, and not peg
until you get airborn.


It's a *recording* fun meter, like a G-Meter. :-)


OK, it's a cumulative thing, eh? I guess you are in original factory new
specifications, then.

I will call the FAA, and tell them not to visit you.

I have my eye on you, though! ;-)
--
Jim in NC

  #49  
Old October 22nd 06, 05:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Judah
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Worried about what, exactly?


A lack of redundancy. Also, to determine your position exactly with
navaids, you either need two of them or some sort of distance
information, e.g., 1 VOR+DME, or 2 VORs.


Again, a lack of training has left you without some very basic knowledge.
You can toggle between your primary and backup frequency even on 1 VOR to
pinpoint your position with good accuracy. You already have the skill, you
just don't understand how to apply them because you have not had proper
training.

Yes, I know that you might be flying routinely in VMC and might be
able to just look out the window, but I like to have reliable backup
for my own, highly subjective determinations of where I am.


Unfortunately, the perspective in a Sim does not compare to the actual
perspective in a real airplane, and so I understand your concern. In a real
plane, this is not a major issue.

I tried flying from Phoenix to KSAN not long ago by following the
interstates, but I didn't realize until I saw Palm Springs below that
I was following the wrong interstate. Granted, this was simulation,
and you might say that real life provides a clearer picture on the
ground than simulation, but I think all interstates look very similar,
and I might well make the same mistake in real life (essentially just
one of following I-10 instead of whatever leads to San Diego).


Yes, but in real life, there are many more cues than just the road. You can
use your sectional to determine the location of towers, bridges, cities,
tracks, and other similar milestones so that you are not dependent on a
single point of failure.

Worried about what, exactly?


Failure of insufficiently tested all-in-one avionics. It's best to
minmize the number of tools or instruments that have
interdependencies.


I believe the G1000 panel has steam-guage backups of the minimum required
equipment.

I have to say, they are nice. I enjoy the club planes very much. Great
planes with a great pricetag.


How do they afford it? Somebody must have paid for all that gear up
front at some point. Who owns the aircraft?


The club members split the costs. The club has grown through several planes
over many years, and I have not been a member since the beginning, so I
don't know the exact history of how the first planes were purchased.
However, I imagine it started off with some number of people who decided to
start a flight club, purchased a plane or two using a mortgage, and split
the costs of the mortgage, tiedown, maintenance, upgrades, etc. I doubt
very much than anyone other than a bank "paid for all that gear up front".
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Old October 22nd 06, 05:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Judah
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"Morgans" wrote in
:

I can't help but notice that your "fun" meter is pegged, even while it
is sitting on the ground. You really need to get that thing worked on.
It should not move off the bottom peg at least until you start the
engine, and not peg until you get airborn.



I dunno. That plane looks fun even on the ground!
 




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