Alternate turbine fuel

(Jay) wrote:

Everytime I take breath of slightly cleaner air, I'll thank you for
your 35-70 cent sacrifice. Or you can think of it another way, thats
money going back into the US economy, not sent to the middle east to
prop up corrupt dictatorships.

I'm not big on subsidies for things that are not economically feasable. If a
bunch of folks want to get together privatly and make the stuff and sell it to
each other, that is fine. But until it is competetive with other fuels,
taxpayers whould not be footing the bill.

If it is denser, as the description of power and economy implies (like diesel
versus avgas, fewer gallons per hour but a gallon weighs more) maybe it isn't a
bad deal. Do you happen to know the density of biofuel versus diesel, or the
BTU's per unit volume or anything like that?

-- Charlie Springer

(Regnirps) wrote in message ...
I'm not big on subsidies for things that are not economically feasable. If a
bunch of folks want to get together privatly and make the stuff and sell it to
each other, that is fine. But until it is competetive with other fuels,
taxpayers whould not be footing the bill.

I'm the same way, the problem is that our current system doesn't price
in the cost to the environment, so poluting solutions cost less in the
short run. I think they call it "Tragedy of the commons", the idea
that since the environment isn't owned by anyone, people use it and
trash it, each person extracting the maximum short term benefit from
it. Its a real problem.

If it is denser, as the description of power and economy implies (like diesel
versus avgas, fewer gallons per hour but a gallon weighs more) maybe it isn't a
bad deal. Do you happen to know the density of biofuel versus diesel, or the
BTU's per unit volume or anything like that?

My recollection is that they are almost the same.

-- Charlie Springer

"Regnirps" wrote in message
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(Jay) wrote:

Everytime I take breath of slightly cleaner air, I'll thank you for
your 35-70 cent sacrifice. Or you can think of it another way, thats
money going back into the US economy, not sent to the middle east to
prop up corrupt dictatorships.

I'm not big on subsidies for things that are not economically feasable. If
a
bunch of folks want to get together privatly and make the stuff and sell
it to
each other, that is fine. But until it is competetive with other fuels,
taxpayers whould not be footing the bill.

If it is denser, as the description of power and economy implies (like
diesel
versus avgas, fewer gallons per hour but a gallon weighs more) maybe it
isn't a
bad deal. Do you happen to know the density of biofuel versus diesel, or
the
BTU's per unit volume or anything like that?

-- Charlie Springer


Go to http://veggievan.org/ to educate yourselves.
Kumaros
It's all Greek to me

I'm the same way, the problem is that our current system doesn't price
in the cost to the environment, so poluting solutions cost less in the
short run.

Just wait until oil gets short, and society has to replace it with coal, etc.
Environmental concerns will then go right in the toilet.

"kumaros" wrote:

Go to http://veggievan.org/ to educate yourselves.
Kumaros
It's all Greek to me

There are some new super yeasts that will make corn syrup into 30% ethanol.
There is also a nice still from NZ for making "pure drinking water" that turns
the stuff into incredible firewater.

-- Charlie Springer