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Do I have to file?
If I want to go from Hollywood N. Perry (HWO) to Tamiami (TMB) Do I have to
file a IFR flt plan if I want to go IFR. Is it possible to pick up a (local) ifr? thanks Steve |
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Do I have to file?
If I want to go from Hollywood N. Perry (HWO) to Tamiami (TMB) Do I have to
file a IFR flt plan if I want to go IFR. Is it possible to pick up a (local) ifr? I'm not sure I understand the question. To legally fly under IFR in controlled airspace (which you will be in), you need an IFR clearance, which means filing an IFR flight plan. You can do that beforehand ("the usual way"), or you can depart VFR (weather permitting) and then try to get a popup clearance. Getting a popup generally involves filing a flight plan in the air. It can be done through approach if they are not busy, but they may tell you to contact flight service (on the radio) and file it there, and then wait until approach gets it. If you have plenty of VFR weather while you're doing this, there's usually not a problem. But if the weather is closing in and approach is busy, you are taking a risk that they can't take you in. Then you're stuck. If you already know this and are just asking the likelihood of getting stuck on this particular route, then I don't know the answer. Jose -- There are two kinds of people in the world. Those that just want to know what button to push, and those that want to know what happens when they push the button. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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Do I have to file?
A local IFR flight plan _is_ an IFR flight plan. Call the TRACON if you want to
know if that type of request will be granted. IIRC it would have to involve only handoff(s) between TRACONs and not involve Center. On 5/28/2007 10:34 PM, smf wrote the following: If I want to go from Hollywood N. Perry (HWO) to Tamiami (TMB) Do I have to file a IFR flt plan if I want to go IFR. Is it possible to pick up a (local) ifr? thanks Steve |
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Mitty wrote: A local IFR flight plan _is_ an IFR flight plan. Call the TRACON if you want to know if that type of request will be granted. IIRC it would have to involve only handoff(s) between TRACONs and not involve Center. IFR is IFR. If a center is involved the TRACON will take care of it. |
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On May 28, 8:34 pm, "smf" wrote:
If I want to go from Hollywood N. Perry (HWO) to Tamiami (TMB) Do I have to file a IFR flt plan if I want to go IFR. Is it possible to pick up a (local) ifr? thanks Steve I think he's asking about local availability of IFR. I'm not familiar with your area but in the Los Angeles are the answer is *NO*. If you are not IFR when you take off there is little chance you're going to get an IFR while airborne (even prefiled). Generally if you need to pick up an IFR clearance in the LA area they ask you to land to pick up the clearance. -Robert, CFII |
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Out here in the wide open spaces of the west, when you say you want to go
present position direct to your destination the controller usually says "Say type and filed airspeed," followed by an abbreviated clearance. In the more constricted north-south airspace of Florida, that might not work. Bob Gardner "smf" wrote in message ... If I want to go from Hollywood N. Perry (HWO) to Tamiami (TMB) Do I have to file a IFR flt plan if I want to go IFR. Is it possible to pick up a (local) ifr? thanks Steve |
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This is nuts.
There should be no reason a properly filed IFR plan cannot be initiated airborne, if it starts at a VOR or intersection , for example. On 29 May 2007 16:11:29 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On May 28, 8:34 pm, "smf" wrote: If I want to go from Hollywood N. Perry (HWO) to Tamiami (TMB) Do I have to file a IFR flt plan if I want to go IFR. Is it possible to pick up a (local) ifr? thanks Steve I think he's asking about local availability of IFR. I'm not familiar with your area but in the Los Angeles are the answer is *NO*. If you are not IFR when you take off there is little chance you're going to get an IFR while airborne (even prefiled). Generally if you need to pick up an IFR clearance in the LA area they ask you to land to pick up the clearance. -Robert, CFII |
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mitty wrote: A local IFR flight plan _is_ an IFR flight plan. Call the TRACON if you want to know if that type of request will be granted. IIRC it would have to involve only handoff(s) between TRACONs and not involve Center. Wouldn't this be the same as Tower En Route (TEC)? No TEC in Florida. California is the only place where TEC has any meaning with respect to how flight plans get filed. In the NE (the only other place with an official TEC program) it's little more than preferred routes that keep you out of center airspace. |
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On May 30, 2:45 am, wrote:
This is nuts. There should be no reason a properly filed IFR plan cannot be initiated airborne, if it starts at a VOR or intersection , for example. Especially in LA. There is more need to do composite flights in LA because going IFR through some areas of LA can increase your distance by as much as 50 miles (vs. using the VFR coridors). I've often wondered if I could get an airborne IFR clearance by contacting the tower and doing a low pass vs. actually landing. Over SMO (where most people want to pick up their IFR in the air because they just got out of the VFR route) it would also save you $4.14 if you don't touch the ground. -Robert |
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