Fighting the high cost of flying

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Andrew Sarangan wrote in
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On Jun 7, 2:25 am, "Jon Woellhaf" wrote:
Denver to Salt Lake and back. Cessna 182Q. Six hours. $300 for fuel.
No traffic, no road construction, no rough roads, no speed limit, can
wander a quarter mile left or right.

Denver to Salt Lake and back. Jeep Grand Cherokee. Eighteen hours.
$200 for fuel. None of the above.

I'd still rather fly when I can.

Jon

Here is my latest trip:
Buffalo to Dayton. 4 hours in an Archer. $180 fuel, no A/C. Hot humid
and noisy.
Buffalo to Dayton, 8 hours in a Toyota Prius Hybrid, $40 gas, A/C,
comfy seats, hardly hear the engine running.

A 2008 Toyota Prius costs $24k. A 30-year old Archer costs $60k.

I did save 4 hours when flying, but if you consider preflight, taxi
and driving to/from the airport, loading/unloading the airplane from
the car, the time savings start to disappear.


'twas always thus.

As a pilot for the past 10 years, I would like to justify flying as a
mode of transportation, but I don't see how.


You can't and never could. Not unless you had a 310 and someone else was
paying for it.

Bertie


Geez, what a dumb ass.

Jay Honeck schrieb:
Comfort levels. Atlas has XM radio, in-panel CD and (portable) DVD
players, and the back seats are positively spacious -- so the kids'
experience flying has been almost 100% positive since birth.

this you can also provide in a car.

total time (door to door) within a smaller radius from home brings a car
ahead in time (and comfort, too: no loading, preflight, security checks
- if any, weather, ...). When there are no more or less direct roads
between you and your destination then flying might still be a good
alternative.

#m

Andrew Sarangan wrote:
On Jun 7, 2:25 am, "Jon Woellhaf" wrote:
Denver to Salt Lake and back. Cessna 182Q. Six hours. $300 for fuel. No
traffic, no road construction, no rough roads, no speed limit, can wander a
quarter mile left or right.

Denver to Salt Lake and back. Jeep Grand Cherokee. Eighteen hours. $200 for
fuel. None of the above.

I'd still rather fly when I can.

Jon

Here is my latest trip:
Buffalo to Dayton. 4 hours in an Archer. $180 fuel, no A/C. Hot humid
and noisy.
Buffalo to Dayton, 8 hours in a Toyota Prius Hybrid, $40 gas, A/C,
comfy seats, hardly hear the engine running.

A 2008 Toyota Prius costs $24k. A 30-year old Archer costs $60k.

I did save 4 hours when flying, but if you consider preflight, taxi
and driving to/from the airport, loading/unloading the airplane from
the car, the time savings start to disappear.


As a pilot for the past 10 years, I would like to justify flying as a
mode of transportation, but I don't see how.


Take longer trips!

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
As a pilot for the past 10 years, I would like to justify flying as a
mode of transportation, but I don't see how.


Take longer trips!


Damned hard to drive to the Bahamas.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Matt Whiting writes:

Take longer trips!

Justifying it requires making it economical for the trips one wishes to take,
not finding trips that will make it seem economical.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Matt Whiting writes:

Take longer trips!

Justifying it requires making it economical for the trips one wishes
to take, not finding trips that will make it seem economical.


Proving yet again, Anthony, that you're a moron.

Mortimer Schnerd, RN writes:

Damned hard to drive to the Bahamas.

Difficult to fly there, too, in a small aircraft. It's a seven-hour flight
non-stop from Buffalo, much of it over water.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN writes:

Damned hard to drive to the Bahamas.

Difficult to fly there, too, in a small aircraft. It's a seven-hour
flight non-stop from Buffalo, much of it over water.


Only an imbecile like you would come up with that Anthony. But, since you
don't know **** from shinola about flying, its no wonder you spew out crap.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN writes:

Damned hard to drive to the Bahamas.

Difficult to fly there, too, in a small aircraft. It's a seven-hour
flight non-stop from Buffalo, much of it over water.


What, you carry your monitor over the sink on long overwater passages, do
you?

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Matt Whiting writes:

Take longer trips!

Justifying it requires making it economical for the trips one wishes
to take, not finding trips that will make it seem economical.


Nope.


Bertie