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bush: impossible to be AWOL (do vets give a sh!t)
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"Baldur" wrote in message news:5A4TQGNB38237.5475578704@anonymous... So we are agreed that George 'WMD' Bush is a cowardly shirker who is denigrating the service of decorated combat veterans like John McCain, Max Cleland, and John Kerry for political purposes. No, none of that is agreed to because none of that is correct. Bush has in no way denigrated the service of John McCain, Max Cleland, John Kerry, or anyone else. |
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(Baldur)
The only thing we're arguing is whether Bush should have been court-martialled for his dereliction. OK, you lost the AWOL argument now you want to try dereliction of duty? In what way was he derelict? Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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Dwight Stewart wrote:
"BigRedWingsFan" wrote: Since you haven't served you have no knowledge of what AWOL and desertion actually are so please leave this discussion to adults that have worn the uniform of this country. Okay, I've worn the "uniform of this country" and say you have no idea what you're talking about. A person in uniform is AWOL whenever that person is not where he/she is supposed to be. While in uniform, the same regulations apply to active duty, reserve, and guard. You have never served in the National Guard, based on this statement! You are dead WRONG by making thet statement. If you would do a little research before mouthing off, you might gain a bit of credibility! PLONK AWOL is a non-judicial offense covered under Article 15 of the UCMJ, while desertion (including AWOL greater than 30 days) can be either a non-judicial (if uncontested) or judicial (if contested) offense under that same article. Punishments for AWOL can range from a written reprimand to loss of benefits, confinement for up to 90 days, loss of pay for up to 180 days, reduction in rank/grade, or even Chapter 13 discharge. Punishments for desertion can range from those associated with AWOL to disnonorable separation without pay/benefits or confinement up to life (during wartime). Stewart |
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